I agree that with great players such as Miles, Maynard etc. that the player is the magic, not the horn. The other side is that Maynard's mouthpiece and horn helped him to get what he wanted to easier, just as Miles' setup made his job easier. While this is true, one of Miles' most iconic records, Walkin' was recorded on a borrowed horn from the recording engineer, not his Committee. Maynard played a number of different horns and always delivered big time. I've never been hired because of whatever horn I played at the time 🙂

I'd say pre-owned carol brass is hard to beat on performance to price ratio. Early Elkhart Bachs (prior to 1975) are usually tremendous horns that can be had at a good price too. Connstellations are great if you can get an Elkhart-made horn for under $900.

@chelpres
My B47 is one of its predecessors. Holton made some great horns

@administrator said in I don't know what that is, but I want one!:

Look at the instrument in the main photo. Is that a flugelhorn?
http://www.jamesmorrison.com/schagerl/

How in the world would a person clean it!?!
Maybe its a flugelnoodle.

@pss it’s not for comercial purposes, only my own use. If you are in Lisbon, you can tryout. Cheers.

@Jolter Mutual funds aren't any guarantee of success and one must take a good look at the load before buying. Another thing you have to keep in mind is that trusting professional financial advice is also not without risk....brokerage agents have no legal obligation to act in a fiduciary way. At the same time good advice today is worthless tomorrow. I learned some things about stocks the hard way over the years. Spread your risk by diversification is my mind set and study your choices regularly.....and at base it is still gambling with more favorable odds than a bank CD.

No trumpet is guaranteed to go up in value over time..... but you won't wake up one morning and discover a major drop in value because of embargoes or the latest medical warning saying Martin Committees have been shown to produce cancer in musical chimpanzees, or some major management fraud had been perpetrated to build false trumpet value.

@Kehaulani said in Does a large bore horn take more air?:

So I'm a little confused.

Could we summarize, then, in layman's terms, that the amount of air required doesn't necessarily depend upon what the bore size is but, rather, upon the collective design of the horn which includes a myriad of factors?

In other words, do some horns take "more air", horn-by-horn, depending on how it's constructed rather than on bore size alone?

Exactly this - horn by horn, depending on how it is constructed, how we hear ourselves, the efficiency of the entire body/mind/mouthpiece/trumpet/playing environment system. Even the term "amount of air" is not correct as our bodies have no measure of this except running out before a phrase is finished. We can believe that the horn is a loose blow indoors, we take it out to an open lake and the same system is like blowing into a brick wall!

@djeffers78 said in Used prices?:

Over on the oTHer site there is a price question. Some have stated that just because some would pay a higher price for something that is a justified reason to raise the price.

If your product is tops and it’s affordable then why would you raise the price and make it less accessible? Other than greed?

If I can really do something for someone then why should I cash in? Seems if I can make a great horn or pass along a great horn then that is what I should do

Was it the post about Kessler's custom trumpets? If so, I think the poster was misunderstood. It was a compliment about the quality of these trumpets, by suggesting they are being sold for less than their actual value. I don't think it was motivated by greed or anything inappropriate.

Mike

@Tobylou8 said in Brass instruments are not pneumatic circuits:

Do fluid dynamics play any role?

Depends on how much one drools!

See my remarks on cup size. If I recall correctly, I did drool initially, but applying more suction helped eliminate much of the drool that leaked from the cheek, so to speak.

Here is the next installment of Brass for Dummies, or Brass for Parents.
http://www.jaegerbrass.com/Blo/Entries/2020/1/explaining-brass-instruments---3-more-notes.html

@stumac Phase is not what causes the frequency that we "hear". I find more evidence that the size and taper of the trumpet bell "amplify" frequencies starting in the second octave. An 1300 Hz horn is around 4.8" in diameter at the mouth according to horn theory... This would damp the fundamental which is below cutoff severely.

I have an Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet. It’s ok for occasional use, and is better in D than Eb. Fairly rare, but is just a so-so horn.

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@Newell-Post
Thank you, and everyone here for your help. One of my bandmates said he used Wrights so I guess I'll give that a go.

@GeorgeB said in Opinions on Valve Oils?:

@flugelgirl
...sample pack makes good sense.

...sounds pretty slick to me!

With such little detail, you'll never know without better pictures. If he only speaks Spanish and is in Texas, he's not playing a 38B. That middle trumpet clearly has 2 braces on the tuning slide and that is not a Conn characteristic on their horns, at least the vintage horns! BEWARE!!! It could be a conn job!!

So, I had my 1966 Silver Flair chemically cleaned, and the results are amazing! Big thank you to Flugelgirl for recommending that I seek out a professional, to have my trumpet chemically cleaned - I'm glad I followed your advice!

The technician that I used was Andrew Clennell, and I couldn't have been happier with the service I received. He's a great guy, and an extremely experienced musician and repairer. I highly recommend his services, if you need any brass instrument cleaned, repaired, or serviced.

www.clennellcustombrass.co.uk

Jason Harrelson must agree as well as I heard he uses CarolBrass valve blocks for his horns. Love my Harrelson, and love the valve block!

@walter-sk Microns separate easy and hard removal. It is still a simple job for a tech but "all your strength" could make the repair very costly.
I have had students with this problem. It can happen if one lays the trumpet down with the 2nd slide underneath. It takes a small hit (no dent) and it is microns out...