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    Trumpetsplus

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    Ivan started his musical career in Auckland, New Zealand, singing in a children's Choir doing weekly radio broadcasts and regular concerts. He was cornet soloist n the New Zealand National Youth Brass Band, and later principal trumpet in the National Youth Orchestra. He was a solo cornet in the World Champion National Band in 1970.

    At Auckland University he studied composition and conducting. After his studies he was appointed principal trumpet of the Symphonia of Auckland. After leaving this orchestra he continued a free-lance playing career in New Zealand, Australia, Europe and USA. Always being a machinist and inventor in his free time, Ivan commenced the development of a player-friendly trumpet.

    For over 20 years Ivan has been writing about issues specific to recreational trumpet players. In 2016 he and his wife formed a public charity promoting recreational music making and Ivan holds trumpet ensemble sessions in his studio.

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    Website www.JaegerBrass.com Location South Salem, NY Age 71

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    • RE: Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha

      @tmd Agreed!

      You might find what Denis Wick said quite interesting
      First of all, the teacher does what he does; he then tells the student what he thinks he does. The student then does what he thinks the teacher said.

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    • Difference between trumpet and cornet

      People often ask "what is the difference between a trumpet and a cornet?" One major difference is the proportion of length before and after the valve section, i.e. where in the length of the instrument are the valves. Here is a graphic to illustrate this difference.Proportion comparison trumpet cornet horn.jpg

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    • RE: Buy your horns here, not there!

      People buy Jaeger trumpets from me.

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    • New eBook or a Cup of Coffee

      Check out this new $2.60 eBook (same price as a cup of coffee!)
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      for
      Recreational trumpet players and their teachers
      or
      Band Directors without a brass background
      or
      Beginners and their parents

      http://www.jaegerbrass.com/products/publications.html

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    • I Think ≠ It Is!

      A recent note from a concerned parent:

      Please forgive my naive questions, what about xxxx for trumpets, I read people trying different xxxx for their trumpets. You have any thoughts on this?

      My reply:

      Thank you for your question, better to have admitted naivety than have an empty checkbook! Yes there are many different options available for trumpets;, lead pipes, bells, special valves, water keys. These are normally offered as an option when new - like cars having automatic or manual gearboxes. But as in the car comparison, it is a very big deal to change an existing setup, it is not just the different component, it is how it fits and affects the whole instrument.

      A lot of people think a lot of things about brass instruments; brainwashing and self-delusion is rampant! Think of these examples:

      I want a stronger water key spring so I need one with more coils.

      Wrong! A fewer number of coils make a spring stronger; a straight piece of wire (no coils) is stronger than one with one coil.

      My trumpet has too much resistance, there must be a blockage.

      Probably wrong. If the trumpet is hard to play there is likely some leakage exactly where the sound wave wants to have high pressure (pressure antinode). The pressure wants to escape, therefore the player has to work harder to maintain the resonance. In this case I would check for leaky water key or joints, or worn valves.

      Remember; there is no computer model that will predict what will happen if you change xxxx.

      Data is empirical = knowledge comes from experimentation.

      “I think” does not equal “It is”.

      As a player/instrument designer and builder/teacher/writer my specialty is to talk about these things, to bring peace to playing situations and to encourage a better relationship between player and instrument. This is best done in person and it is why we have such a comfortable setting here - my workshop/factory and the large music room. It is also why we started the not for profit foundation “The Recreational Musician” dba “Trumpet4Fun”.

      Arm yourself with reputable equipment and concentrate on playing music.

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    • Brass instrument 101

      I have often been surprised at the lack of students' understanding of how trumpets work, so am fated to write some brief articles to help them. Here is the first effort:
      http://www.jaegerbrass.com/Blo/Entries/2019/12/explaining-brass-instruments---1-the-basics.html

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    • RE: Trumpets Made ONLY by Their Maker

      There is some confusing and incorrect information about various trumpet brands in this thread. BTW here are some photos on this page of an ascending valve trumpet I finished in my South Salem, NY workshop last week.
      http://www.jaegerbrass.com/jaeger-ascending-c.html

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    • RE: Difference between trumpet and cornet

      I have expanded on this and posted a blog - http://www.jaegerbrass.com/Blo/Entries/2019/9/difference-between-cornet-and-trumpet.html

      Here is the text What is the Difference between a cornet and a trumpet?

      When I started playing the cornet in NZ in 1958, the brass band community was vehemently “anti professional”. If anyone was discovered to have been playing for money, in a dance band for instance, they would have their brass band association registration revoked, and would not be allowed to participate in such events as contests. Dance band at that time equalled trumpet, and playing the trumpet was regarded as heresy. Being terrified by these regulations, we young cornetists wondered what the difference actually was between cornets and trumpets. We were told that cornets are tapered and trumpets are cylindrical. This is the commonly accepted view, but, as I have observed, not correct.

      Shorter?
      The cornet looks to be shorter than the trumpet. It is not. Both instruments play the same pitch indicating that their lengths are the same. Yes the silhouette is shorter but the tubing lengths are identical. The cornet looks shorter because the tubing of a cornet is coiled into two complete turns whereas the trumpet has only one. We refer to this as the wrap. Anyone who has experimented with different shape main slides on their trumpet will have experienced the great effect that these different shapes can make. The cornet has two more half turns than the trumpet.

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      Conical vs Cylindrical?
      Many think that the tubing of the cornet is conical whereas the trumpet is cylindrical. This is incorrect. Both instruments have roughly the same proportion of tapered to straight tubing as the accompanying graphic shows. Both the measured instruments have bores starting at around 0.335” at the mouthpiece entry, 0.459” though the valve section, and 4.8” at the bell.

      The tapers of the lead pipes and bells of both these instruments are the same. I have been told that when French Besson were designing their trumpet they used the same bell mandrel to make the bell as they were using for their cornet. To this day Vincent Bach cornets are offered with #25, #31 or #37 bells which are some of the same bell shapes offered on their trumpets. When 19th century composers were calling for chromatic instruments, these parts went to the cornets because at that time trumpet players were insisting on keeping their valveless “Natural” trumpets. Maybe the straightening of the cornet by one turn to more closely approximate the silhouette of the natural trumpet helped in having these new chromatic trumpets accepted.

      Valve Section Placement
      The valve section of the cornet is two thirds down the length of the tubing whereas the trumpet valve section is halfway down its length (plus or minus a little bit). This positioning places the valve section (which is where the player holds the instrument) at the center of gravity so that the instrument balances in the hand.

      Mouthpiece
      The mouthpieces for both these instruments are quite different. The cornet, in its British Brass Band mode, requires a relatively deep V shaped cup, whereas the trumpet prefers a shallower bowl shaped cup.
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      Experiment
      I built a cornet which has a receiver for a trumpet mouthpiece. It can be played with either a trumpet mouthpiece or a cornet mouthpiece (when used with an appropriate adapter). When I use a trumpet mouthpiece it sounds and feels like the cornet used in Jazz, and when I play it with a traditional cornet mouthpiece it responds suitably for British Brass Band. It is a cornet not a trumpet.

      I also built a trumpet with an extra coil in its wrap but with the valves half way down its length, not two thirds down like a cornet. When played with a trumpet mouthpiece it is absolutely trumpet-like; when played with the same cornet piece as above it sounds mellow but does not feel like a cornet. It is a trumpet not a cornet.

      Both of these instruments have the valve section at the balance point, the same distance from the player.

      Conclusion
      It appears that the essential differences between trumpet and cornet are:

      Mouthpiece shape - bowl cup or V cup

      Wrap - one complete turn or two.

      Placement of the valves - half way along the tubing or two thirds.

      The instrument with a cup mouthpiece, one complete turn, and valves half way along its length can play and feel like a trumpet.

      The instrument with a V mouthpiece, two complete turns, and valves two thirds along its length can play and feel like a cornet.

      Hopefully this information will help in unraveling the difference between these two instruments.

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    • RE: Trumpet Board Remote Performance

      Two different things here. Zoom is for "meetings" and solo performances to a group. I have played some solos on Zoom to a Zoom audience of one of the orchestras I play in.

      Ensemble playing is done with each member individually recording their part to a click track or backing track then someone clever puts it all together. Here is an example that I participated in for Memorial Day.

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    • RE: Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha

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    Latest posts made by Trumpetsplus

    • RE: Some Of Your Favorite Trumpet Gals

      @bigdub Beautiful playing, beautiful music. We used to play a Brass Band arrangement of this in the 60s, and I recently arranged it for my local band.

      Also, I included this piece in my collection of tunes "Music 4 Fun".

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    • Convert notes into music

      Couldn't find a more appropriate place for this, so here goes:

      A short video on overcoming shortcomings of printed music and using lyrics.

      posted in Miscellaneous
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    • RE: Books about Trumpets

      @OldSchoolEuph said in Books about Trumpets:

      Allen valves. Every time I see one of these (given how remarkably well some of these antiques still play) it really makes me wonder about valve alignments being mostly placebo. . . .

      Agree!

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    • RE: Books about Trumpets

      @Dale-Proctor said in Books about Trumpets:

      This is a very good one, and I think they can still be found.

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      I have a duplicate copy of this if you are interested.

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    • Celebrating 200

      Today I posted the 200th song to help people pass the time through Covid. These songs are posted through Trumpet4Fun by email and also on the Trumpet4Fun Facebook page.
      https://www.facebook.com/Trumpet4Fun/

      posted in Lounge
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    • Music 4 Fun - over 300 melodies

      During the Covid shutdown I have been posting daily tunes to help keep miusicians motivated. A lot of these tunes are in my new compilation which is now available. Sorry due to high postage rates, it is too expensive to send these outside the US (but my trumpets and smaller accessories like Resonance Enhancers ship for the same price worldwide). http://www.jaegerbrass.com/products/publications.html

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    • RE: 3rd Valve for Olds Recording Trumpet?

      Need to see a photo showing what actual part is missing. OP says valve then slide. I have a Recording on my bench at the moment, this model has a mobile slide plus a dump slide with water key, Do they want the trumpet to just play or do they want it "restored". Any competent tech can come up with a solution; compatible crooks and slide tubes are available, it is a case of machining and fabricating.

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    • Bach Strad with 5 Bells $1600

      Bach Strad Bb tuning bell trumpet with 5 bells! Serial 111xxx, mid 70s. Awesome compression, zero red rot. This could be the ultimate all-round horn because it comes with a Bach 37 bell plus 4 Kanstul French Besson bells. The Kanstul bells are: 2 with a standard round bell crook, one regular gauge one heavier gauge, and 2 with a squarer bell crook, one regular gauge, one lighter gauge. For any style just select the bell to give you the appropriate tone color. Supplied with a Bach double case. Plus Sales Tax for New York buyers. Shipping to lower 48 at cost. Contact me for pictures and video.!

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    • RE: Trumpet Board Remote Performance

      Two different things here. Zoom is for "meetings" and solo performances to a group. I have played some solos on Zoom to a Zoom audience of one of the orchestras I play in.

      Ensemble playing is done with each member individually recording their part to a click track or backing track then someone clever puts it all together. Here is an example that I participated in for Memorial Day.

      posted in Miscellaneous
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    • RE: Lick from Gypsy

      I saw (but, sorry, can't find again) a video of Mark Inouye from San Francisco Symphony describing this very alternating fingering technique for fast passages like in "Scheherazade". And I also remember in Brass Band back in the 60s using this technique to simulate string tremolos (I think it was in an arrangement of Lalo's "Le Roi d'Ys"). There are probably many techniques that we don't utilize as much as we could.

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