We played our first gig today. It was at a farmers market, with these venues operating as essential services, albeit with some restrictions. We performed as a piano/bass duo. The market was pretty well attended, considering it was the day after the 4th of July. Masks and social distancing were in place. Everybody was friendly, happy to be out, and happy to be hearing some live music. We jokingly called our band The Social Dissonance.

Mike

@Dale-Proctor said in Seeking input on Rules:

Keep it simple - no profanity, no name calling, nothing unrelated to trumpets/cornets/flugelhorns/etc. and musical topics in general. That gives topics a pretty wide latitude without excessive rules. Be civil to your fellow members if there’s a disagreement on some point, and keep things PG in case younger people are looking in.

I like this reply. Building on it, first and foremost, I'm looking for "community", for an opportunity to talk to like-minded people. And although I may have questions from time-to-time, I'm not here looking for answers.

So I agree with @Dale-Proctor. Keep it focused on the trumpet and related topics, with wide latitude. But above all else, keep it friendly.

Mike

I find this to be a very unfortunate thread. And to the moderators/administrator I ask ... Is this site is better off having this thread?

Much of what we do when playing the trumpet is indiscernible, and as such, is open to interpretation. And much of the physics and physiology we reference is often anecdotal and unscientific. Because of this, there's very little value when some posts a link and declares it to be dogma.

We all dig in our heels from time to time, as was very evident in this thread. This is human nature, and is understandable. But this site needs moderators who know how to respectfully put out these fires, and not fan the flames. In addition this site needs an administrator who knows when to delete self-destructive threads that may cause irreparable harm.

Mike

@Bob-Pixley said in The One:

I have a 1976 Bach Strad, ML 43 that is a terrific trumpet. I've owned it since the early 1980s, and although I've bought (and sold) many other trumpets since then, the Bach has always been my "go to" trumpet. Great sound and intonation, even scale, plays easily.

I'm also partial to my 1974 Bach 43*, which I purchased back in the mid-70s.

When I started playing again (about 10 years ago after a 20-year layoff), I started looking for a new horn. My 43* took a lot of abuse over the years. I went on an extended safari for 2-3 years, looking for a new trumpet. In the end, there were none that I liked better than my 43*. So I sent it off to Kanstul to erase years of wear and rebuild the valves. There are many good horns out there, of course. But the 43* is the one I'm most used to playing, and thus, it's "the one" for me.

Mike

@ROWUK said in Valve oils:

I successfully use LaTromba T2 (new bottle), Ultra Pure, Hetmans (various thicknesses) and Monster (various thicknesses). LaTromba T2 is the cheapest (in Europe). I buy it by the case.

They are all "equal" on my horns if applied properly.

I agree that most any of these oils would be adequate. Personally, I use Hetman, not because I think it's the best. I use it because it gets the job done, it's the oil my tech uses, and it's easy to obtain in various in various formulations.

Regarding use, once a week, I wipe down my valves and casings with a lint-free cloth, wipe out the vents and caps with a tissue, and then reoil and lube. No problems. No buildup. No need to oil daily.

Mike

@stephanurus said in Trumpet won’t play:

Hey! I just got it to play! But I had to blow quite hard. I used to play cornet 60 years ago and don’t remember the cornet being this hard to play. It requires an almost superhuman effort to sound anything. That can’t be right.

Do you have a friend who plays the trumpet? If so, let him/her try the horn, to see if it's difficult to play. If it is, then take it to a tech.

Mike

@ROWUK said in PLEASE KEEP CIVIL!:

The discussion here in this thread is exemplary of something far different. No one asked why escalation occured - “Keep it Civil” is just a bandaid - a lame attempt to keep an infection from spreading. I would insist that a band aid on top of a festering wound is not the best solution - although for a while, out of sight is out of mind. We may need some time until a diagnosis is possible, but I do not see the questions even being asked.

I don't think we need a diagnosis. The lack of civility was due to one person, and assisted at times by one other person. I don't think the reason for their bad behavior had anything to do with the other members here. They are both gone/banned.

This thread also evolved into "where do we go from here". That's a good thing. But I think it's independent of the bad behavior of a former member.

Mike

@administrator said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:

Also, I can see the news headlines now...

Disturbing Yamaha Thread Brings TrumpetBoards to its Knees!

I hope not. Disagreements are human nature. What sets us apart is how we resolve them.

Mike

@neal085 said in TM Refugee - Late to the Party.:

A few quick questions: How can I improve my range in 3 easy steps, but only practicing 5 minutes a day? Is double high C the one below the staff? Miles Davis or Freddie Hubbard? Is there balm in Gilead? Where does Rowuk hide his secret collection of P.E.T.E.s? Here's a video of me playing a song I've never practiced before, can you please critique? Is Kenny G still considered the best jazz artist of all time? Oh, and where's the Argument Clinic?

A few quick answers ...
Prayer.
No.
Chet.
Who cares.
It's a secret.
Again, "prayer".
No.
On Facebook.

Mike

@Kehaulani said in The New Reality:

I can't hear Bolero without thinking of Bo Derick.

When I saw that movie in my late teens, it was all about Bo Derick. Then I saw it again in my 40s, and I realized it was really all about Dudley Moore's midlife crisis.

Mike

@rowuk said in Tough Decision to make:

@administrator
My take on this is perhaps a bit unconventional, but I would insist that between those two horns, it does not matter. Regardless of which on you pick, there will always be something in the back of your mind questioning that choice.
That being said, I do not believe in a lot of this synergy blah. I do not believe that most musicians have a "well formed concept" that would guide them only to specific hardware ....

I agree. It's rarely ever the hardware that makes the difference. Buy the horn that inspires you the most. And although this isn't always possible, especially with boutique horns, play the horn before you buy it.

I play a Bach 43*. It's been my main horn since 1975. It's perfect for me for 2 reasons. First, I'm emotionally attached to it, having played it for 45+ years. Second, it's what I'm physically used to playing. For me, it has nothing to do with the horn.

Mike

@stephanurus said in Trumpet won’t play:

Hey! I just got it to play! But I had to blow quite hard. I used to play cornet 60 years ago and don’t remember the cornet being this hard to play. It requires an almost superhuman effort to sound anything. That can’t be right.

Do you have a friend who plays the trumpet? If so, let him/her try the horn, to see if it's difficult to play. If it is, then take it to a tech.

Mike

All things being equal, I say keep the old treads unlocked. This would give people the ability to add updates and related questions. But I'm happy with whatever the admins/moderators want.

On a related note, there's a resurrected thread on TH, that started with a legitimate question about pricing, but reemerged 2 years later with hyperbole and infighting. Maybe this is a good argument for locking old threads.

https://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=154148&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Mike

@dale-proctor said in Olds Ambassador Eb Trumpet:

This trumpet is a production model from Olds. The catalog page shown below indicates it was intended for marching band, as Rowuk noted. I (formerly known as Bob Pixley…lol) still have it and it’s still in the case in a closet.

Dale, for some reason, I thought you sold yours.

Mike

@dr-go said in How many is too many?:

As a medical professional I may suggest perhaps you need medical help.

Yes, I need medical help, or maybe more disposable income.

@georgeb said in How many is too many?:

Yes, and you can pay Doc so many horns per visit.
George

LOL

@dr-go said in How many is too many?:

What he said. Just got to find an ICD-10 code to cover it!

F42.3

@administrator said in How many is too many?:

@tmd do you ever play the alto horn?

What are you my wife or something? (Just kidding.)

The horn is just for fun. I got it at Baltimore Brass. At the time, they had a half dozen of them, all priced to sell. And at only $100, for me, it was worth the price.

I occasionally take it to jam sessions. Only problem is that I have to transpose everything for Eb/F horn. I use a flugelhorn mouthpiece, making it easier to play, although I realize that a real Alto Horn player might cringe at my choice.

Mike

How many is too many? I'm guessing more than 16.

Mike

@davidpaul said in Brand-New 1971 Olds Ambassador Trumpet Possible?:

My wife is insisting that the Ambassador trumpet should no longer be allowed in our bed at night. She claims the cold brass is uncomfortable on here back when she accidently touches it. Is she being unreasonable?

Tell your wife that it's unsafe to sleep with the trumpet on her back. Lay the trumpet on the bed, between you two. And make sure the 2nd valve slide is facing up, to prevent STDS (sudden trumpet death syndrome).

@barliman2001 said in Brand-New 1971 Olds Ambassador Trumpet Possible?:

@davidpaul For your own sake, the trumpet should be weaned.

During the weaning process, do you recommend scheduled oiling or demand oiling?

@davidpaul said in Brand-New 1971 Olds Ambassador Trumpet Possible?:

After all, the poor thing is over 50 years old and has hardly ever been played.

We're still talking about your trumpet, right?

Mike

@administrator said in Arriving next week - Bach 184 Cornet:

Good choice. What do you plan on using it for?

Thanks. About 95% of my trumpet playing is in a jazz trio. So I'll likely use it on certain gigs in that setting.

@dale-proctor said in

Well, we both have a 43 Strad and an Olds L-12, so why not get a Bach 184?…lol

Great minds think alike.

Mike

@dale-proctor said in Arriving next week - Bach 184 Cornet:

Nice! I have a large bore 184G from the early 1990s and really enjoy playing it.

A 184G large bore is pretty cool. I had been looking for a 184 at the right price for a couple years.

Mike