@Rapier232 Man, this replicates my personal experience to T. Came to the horn relatively late in life, bit the bullet and bought a trumpet and Tune a Day book and persevered. I could neither justify or afford the cost of lessons, so did it the hard, very hard way. They say it is character building! That said, the sense of personal achievement in doing it myself and then joining 2 Community Bands, is something I will always carry with me. Would I recommend it? Absolutely not. Then again, the realisation you have achieved something personally significant cannot be replaced.

@Dr-GO At the risk of him not talking to me again, I second your nomination. Sorry Stuart

@ButchA
By chance, I used a Kelly 5C this morning for the out-doors portion of our ANZAC Day Dawn Service. 6 A.M start. The morning was cold enough to warrant using the Kelly, but not as cold as it must get in parts of "The States".
J.Jericho,s comments are a perfect summation of the M.P's attributes. Give one of them a go, I think you will be both pleased and surprised.
Regards,Tom

@ButchA Nice version, but I do prefer the original. Eric Clapton may have been god, but Steve Winwood was King.
Regards

@Shifty Check out the rest of the Sant Andreau performances. It's a humbling experiance!

@Dr-GO Alternatively, just something comfortable to slip into. We have all been there!!

@OldSchoolEuph A quick vote of thanks to OldSchoolEuph for posting this info and to all those members who have offer informed thoughts and commentary.
It's this type of posting that drew me TH and the late lamented TM in the first instance. I would not deny that there is room for this type of information and social intercourse, however I would suggest that the more learned material that is posted, the greater the possibility for the site to attract a wider membership base.

Just my thoughts, there I've said it.

Regards Tom

@ButchA Yes, one of the greatest solo's ever. It just gets better with repeated listening.

@administrator In my darker moments I repeatedly go to March to the Scaffold and Mars-Bringer of war, but increasingly I am listening to people like Amii Stewart-Knock on Wood, Eruption- I can't stand the rain (who mentioned eye candy?), Earth Wind and Fire and almost anything from the Motown/Stax labels, Temptations-Pappa was a Rolling Stone,Joan Osbourne-What becomes of the broken hearted and Wilson Pickett Sam and Dave Otis Redding et al.

@administrator Spot on. My 7660L is everything I could have hoped for (and more). By any measure they are exceptional value for money.

@administrator Spot on. My 7660L is everything I could have hoped for (and more). By any measure they are exceptional value for money.

@tptguy Received wisdom is that the Holton Heim 2 M.P would be suitable. I bought one for just that purpose, for use in my 1927 New Revelation. My friend has a similar period Llewellen and the Heim came as standard.
FWIT'sW, I have found the best fit is with a period VEGA M.P. However first find your VEGA!
I would imagine a skilled tech would be able to determine M.P receiver dimensions and machine down a contemporary M.P to match. I had this done, but used the VEGA as a template.
I would imagine some of the more enlightened Holton specialists in vintage land will be able to expand on all this.

@dr-go Damn, if only my school had had a band.

@tjcombo Couldn't agree more on your opinion of the Legend Heavy weight. As they say in the classics, it's a nut buster. On a value for money basis, they, the Carol Brass, cannot be beaten.

@j-jericho I hadn't heard of Pauly Cohen until now, tyrany of distance and that sort of thing, but just listened to him playing that most glorious of jazz standards, What's New, with the Count Basie Orchestra. Just sublime, what a tone. That,s one performance to return to time and again.

@adc Connloyalist has some interesting info on the evolution of the 20A cornet, suggesting it was a continuation of the Pan American model, albeit under the Conn brand. I have a Pan American cornet, serial number 225xxx dating manufacture to 1951. My question is, how does this differ, if at all, from the later iterations of the original Pan American model marketed under the Conn name?
Regards Tom

@gloucestre Hi Gloucestre, I,m guessing your Tempo is the one recently listed on our (Australian), Gumtree site. I did look at this one and asked the vendor for some details. She was able to ind "made in Czecho" I think on the MP receiver. The opportunity arose for me to put my money elsewhere, so I passed on this one. Glad it found a good home. Regards Tom

@kehaulani Hi, yes, scarce as rocking horse s**t and as a I recall, horrendously expensive. Just have to make-do with my Sinatra and Basie live at the Sands. Just a classic, pity about his monologues! Regards ans seasons greetings.

Slightly of theme, but...looking for a copy of Count Basie live at the Sands (before Frank). Seemingly unavailable or as scarce as hens teeth here in Australia.. Shoul anyone have one for sale, please P.M me. Regards Chelpres

@administrator In my darker moments I repeatedly go to March to the Scaffold and Mars-Bringer of war, but increasingly I am listening to people like Amii Stewart-Knock on Wood, Eruption- I can't stand the rain (who mentioned eye candy?), Earth Wind and Fire and almost anything from the Motown/Stax labels, Temptations-Pappa was a Rolling Stone,Joan Osbourne-What becomes of the broken hearted and Wilson Pickett Sam and Dave Otis Redding et al.