My favorite Martin is from about 1923. It's a Martin Handcraft Dansant. What was special about it was that it was apparently made as a dance band horn with the particular ability to project sound across a room in competition with other sound coming from a dance band. It didn't project a particularly louder or fuller sound, and certainly not to the players ear.. just a more penetrating sound that would carry and remain somewhat distinct far out into a dance hall. Don't know if this intention succeeded or not but the bell shaft bends into a little longer total length than other horns I own. There must have been a lot of them made in the middle to late 20's because you see them on ebay fairly often. I'll attach a photo. It's the one in the middle on the shelf.
Geez!! My 1400sqft ranch is worth $350k now - give it a Seattle zip and it would go for around $700k. The most expensive home for sale in my hometown in ME is listed for $100k, and is overpriced in that area. It’s a 6 bed Victorian with an apartment over the carriage house and a guest cottage. We could buy that house and never have to work again, and be bored out of our minds for the rest of our lives. We’ll happily stick with what we’ve got!
I know, where the jobs are not, there the houses are big and cheap!
Most all of those Customs had a 21/32 size cup. Maynards was 19/32. Rims went from A-flattest/widest, to D- thinnest/rounded. Numbers where depth if I remember correctly 1-shallowest to 7(?) deepest. I'll try to find my bookmark of the pamphlet to be sure that's correct.
After reading so many hallelujah stories about B&S trumpets I had to give that brand a try.
Mod. 3137 Challenger I: Bach 180/37 copy. A well made horn, good valves but the sound didn't even come close to my old Elkhart Bach 180/37. Sold it to a German guy
Mod. MBX. 72-ish bell, ml. bore, l leadpipe and tuning slide. Good sounding horn but to me way too heavy. I traded this one in for a Yamaha 8130 Z. The latter was way easier to play for me
Mod. eXquisite Malcolm McNab. Copy of his old m-bore Vincent Bach Stradivarius. This one I ordered from Thomann; in 2009 they where the only shop who had them in stock. Beautiful made instrument but for me so hard to play that I was glad that I could return it. The m-bore Conn 22B 'Victor' turned out to be a way better match, that one I played for years until I exchanged her for a Getzen Eterna
At least I gave it a try but I.ll have to say that to me the B&S trumpets where one big disappointment
Actually, the analysis of what went wrong is a bit different. We are creatures of habit. If we have something much different than what we are used to, there is a necessary period to acclimate - which can be months. Naturally when we are looking for a new horn, this makes "change" not so easy or economically feasible. In this case you were disappointed - and understandably so, but at the end of the day we do not know if it was the instrument or an inner unwillingness to change. This is exactly the point that screws a lot of peoples lives up. Projection of fault. We do not know if a "problem" is hardware or software. To test this concept, take your best playing horn and play it in a church with good acoustics, in a bedroom, outdoors near a lake, in a bathroom and take notes about the blow and feel. It will be 4 different instruments - with the only difference how you hear yourself. Another test is to insert earplugs when playing - we hear ourselves worse and the trumpet gets "stuffier".
Now we can argue that an instrument with "inferior response" is not one that we should buy - but sometimes we are so influenced by the factor blow that we ignore many other parameters that could expand our playing. Anyone that tries a very heavy trumpet like a Monette or Harrelson needs time to get the ears and brain organised.
My personal rule of thumb is to never buy anything unless I can clearly and rationally define what is missing from what I am using. That guided me from Bach to Schilke and then finally Monette mouthpieces.
My trumpets each have a defined palette of colors for specific playing jobs.
I used to have an MII as a backup horn when my main Bb was a B6. I wouldn’t call it a student horn - it sure played close to the B5 I had from the Navy. I used it on a lot of gigs I didn’t want to take a more expensive horn, but could have played it full time without issue. Mine was more Schilke than Yamaha, and it was pretty clear which parts belonged to which brand. I sold the MII to a friend who’s still playing it as her main Bb and loves it!
In my youth I knew a family whose name was Mueller, the grandmother came to Australia before WW1, born in Germany in the 1870s, she pronounced her name as Miller, she would correct anyone that pronounced it any other way.
Agreed. Big clue is Olds Pinto used a plastic valve block;)
During the late 70's I made my living as a full time repair tech at the local music store. I saw quite a few Pintos and its cousin, the Reynolds Ranger. They did not have plastic valve blocks. They were brass valve blocks coated in a thick plastic. They could be taken apart without a torch, and the valves were interchangeable. And they sucked big time. But they were nearly indestructible.
I know somewhere in the mid to late 60's, they no longer used that classic Buescher valve block. Kind of a generic looking one. Probably used up all the parts they had then something else. Just HOW MANY brands did Selmer buy out? Obviously, Selmer was run better and was profitable, and most likely other brands didn't adapt fast enough.
Last week I run into another Getzen 900 Eterna, this time a ML-bore from 1986. Build in the same way as my 900 LB (so the brace NOT in the tuning slide like the Severinsen and the recent 'Classic' models but placed between the lead pipe and the tube that goes straight into the 3th valve. The bell diameter is a little different; the ML bell is a little smaller) but sound wise different: the ML is way brighter than the sound delivered by the bell of the LB horn (played with the same mouthpiece). The 1986 Eterna 900 ML has a broader sound rather like my Eterna 700s
Playing characteristics are approximate the same speaking about resistance in the blow however, I find the ML a little an easier player
Funny how different the Getzen Eterna 900 can play