@Comeback said in Reasons to NOT Collect Trumpets:
my reasons for not collecting trumpets:
Collecting means you have lots of instruments to care for;
Collecting nice instruments and storing them may mean that someone else who could be playing them is not.
First, let me start with reasons that you have may agreement on. See above bulleted reasons.
@Kehaulani said in The new Martin Committee "thread" from a TM emigrant:
@Dr-GO said in The new Martin Committee "thread" from a TM emigrant:
I can sound like Miles on my $3,000 Committee. But why? I prefer sounding like myself as Claudio taught me intended me to sound.
There's more than tone in replicating someone else's playing. There's phrasing and articulations for starters.
Yes. And this is how Claudio taught me. The phrasings and articulations are the voice. Though understanding and reproducing the voice of others you will find your own.
My vocal hero was Joe Henderson. My voice is channeled more through him than any other.
Clifford's only vice was letting his wife drive the car.
I can sound like Miles on my $3,000 Committee. But why? I prefer sounding like myself as Claudio taught me intended me to sound.
@Comeback said in Frustrated:
Glad to see you posting here, OldSchoolEuph. I have learned from what you have written on TH and TM. Hopefully this young site will mature into a reliably useful helpful resource.
People like Comeback is what keeps people coming back to TH. Always love your posts Comeback@
OldSchool, to second the above response, the administrator made a great choice.
Just hoping tjcombo can post the reference video demonstrating more efficient embouchure as it was highly educational as to how top notch performers use alternative techniques to buzzing.
I have Irakera's albums gifted to me by a Cuban refugee. They are truly amazing with a level of energy surpassed by few.
@Kehaulani said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
@Dr-Mark said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
@Dr-GO said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
Dr Mark PLEASE STOP the PERSONAL ATTACKS. Another administrator clean up on aisle 3.
Attacks? Nope, everything I said is true. You are a hospital employee who argues with the Yamaha Corp.
Time for me to practice.Oh come on, now.
I have called once again for administrator intervention.
@Dr-Mark said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
@Dr-GO said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
This site looses credibility from it's first line:
Let's see. The site is an authentic Yamaha Inc. site and you are who? Oh yeah, that's right, you're an employee at a hospital and in no way a trumpet technician, trumpet maker, or a trumpet clinician. I think I'll stick with what Yamaha has to say.
I'm done with this silliness.
C-Ya
Dr Mark PLEASE STOP the PERSONAL ATTACKS. Another administrator clean up on aisle 3.
@tjcombo said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
I could never buzz my lips without unnatural facial contortions, but have no problems making trumpet noises with a horn.
This video from Greg Spence shows airflow straight from the chops, with a mouthpiece and then with mouthpiece and leadpipe. Not sure where the quote can from, but this seems to demonstrate that "you do not play the trumpet, the trumpet plays you". It also made me feel better and that lack of a "naked" buzz was no big deal
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. NO BUZZING. JUST PHWOOOOO. THIS IS EFFICIENCY. TRY IT EVERYONE. IT WILL CHANGE YOUR TRUMPET PLAYING LIFE!
@Kehaulani said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
If you can just blow air into the mouthpiece and produce a sound without your lips touching, you have discovered something rare, indeed.
Lips are touching. Watch Tine Thing in the video, please watch the video. You will better understand.
Then try it. OK.
@Kehaulani said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
I thought this was resolved.
What's to resolve? There is no fight here. There is no "one way is better than another". All I have been trying to do in all of these threads that I bring up the phwoooo technique is to enlighten our readers that there is more than one way to put the vibration from the lips into the horn. Dr. Marc even posted a lecture (Dr. Marc posts amazing material) where an individual lights a torch to produce sound in a glass tube. Any energy form that moves the air inside a tube (in the case of the mouthpiece the cup and throat, will produce a vibration in the material in contact, which at the beginning of the process is the mouthpiece. There is nothing in need of resolution here, OK.
@Kehaulani said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
...When there is no sound, it can't be further amplified. No buzz no sound. The sound-source doesn't manifest itself out of the blue.
Kehaulani. All you need is vibration, whether it's the classic buzz or whether it's phwooooo. Try it. Produce phwooo and as you hold out the oooo... place the mouthpiece against your lips. You will get the same sound as Tine Thing. Then do the classic buzz, and you will also get a sound that is a bet harsher. Both techniques produce a vibration that moves air within the mouthpiece.
It's at 22:09 and she says"I can't buzz". And doesn't. When she plays the mouthpiece then pulls it away... she sounds the phwoooo... which is identical to the sound my embouchure produces. Really... Watch this closely once again. When she pulls away, there is no buzz. A sound can be made without buzzing and Tine and I make this same sound. Again, watch carefully and closely.
@N1684T said in Reasons to collect trumpets?:
Then i can go in there and sit among ALL my trumpets naked.
The dripping of valve oil directly onto the skin can enhance the skin's texture, for sure.
@PortugaHorns said in Drill measures:
@Trumpetsplus I play on my custom mouthpieces. You can see it on my personal table / chart. I love my 5mm. made a re-shape on cup and backbore to balance the drill. What a sound and easier airflow. Better lower range and highs, resonance at full capacity with awesome dynamics. I haven’t a clue that was #8 Drill. Now I’m better informed and still searching and trying new approaches.
I love my two 5mm's as well. What I think is so cool about the concept of this mouthpiece is how amazing the throat is to enhancing the efficiency of the other components.
The information as to the physics of the trumpet is a nice review.
The site says: "There are various different mouthpiece shapes-a mouthpiece with a deep cup will produce a mellower sound, while a mouthpiece with a shallower cup will produce a bright, piercing sound."
Again, I disagree. A deep cup gives more vibratory potential for the lip as Dr. Mark demonstrated in another post by Adams, yes? Perhaps a more centered sound, but not necessary mellower. The trumpet takes care of most of that. From my 50 years+ of playing experience, I believe the throat of the mouth piece has more to do with the sound quality.
This site looses credibility from it's first line:
The trumpeter produces sound from the trumpet by buzzing his lips.
This is just wrong. There are some of us that do not produce a sound from a buzz. Myself as an example and Tine Thing Helseth is another. I remain in good company, yes?
