@Kehaulani said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
"But for those who's goal it is of playing the trumpet well... the physics does help."
I'm not going to hunt this post down, but I don't see the conflict at face value.
Thanks Kehaulani. I agree there is no conflict intended. I contacted the Administrator to try to get us back on track.
@Dr-Mark said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
@Dr-GO said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
But for those who's goal it is of playing the trumpet well... the physics does help.
What a bold pretentious statement!
I see you text is bold. Please explain why that statement would taken as such. I really don't understand. It is my honest opinion, it's not meant to be pretentious. Have I offended anyone else here on TB with this statement.
@Dr-Mark said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
@Dr-GO said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
If someone starts talking about trumpet (or some aspect of) using a jargon, I'll suggest that they go to a website (with the same question) and pose the question to people that speak that particular language... Its probably a good idea to sh**can our pompous jargon when talking trumpet... If a person can only speak in their particular jargon, how are they to explain to the common person? A good communicator needs to be able to talk with kings and peasants. The difference? jargon.
I do not understand this line of discussion. What jargon are you referring to as is related to this thread? Can you be more specific so all of us readers interested in learning from this thread be more enlightened by the direction you are taking this discussion.
Nicely done. Very relaxed sound, That was you frown embouchure, correct?
@Dr-Mark said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
@Dr-GO said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
But for those who's goal it is of playing the trumpet well... the physics does help. I believe Jaguar Brass, Harrelson, Monett would support this perspective, right?
As long as you're asking them and not most of the people here.
One of them is one of the people here. Have you met TrumpetsPlus Dr. Mark.
@Kehaulani said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
Well spake. I used to think that if you couldn't understand me, that was your problem and showed your lack of education. Not my fault. Why should I stoop to your level? I took an Air Force course for officers in communication. Very eye opening for me.
One of the first things I was taught was to consider your goal. Was it to show how much education you have or to get your listener to do something you need them to do? If you want the listener to understand and follow your instructions then put the words in the same context that the other person uses and will understand.
Read my line once again Kehaulani, it mentions nothing about training, degrees or asking scientists, it just simply states: But for those who's goal it is of playing the trumpet well... the physics does help. No analytical analysis. No reference to PhD, just recognizing the blood sweat and tears of individuals that put together damn good trumpets. Just a simple statement.
@Kehaulani said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
My only skepticism is if so much interest in digging deeper and deeper into the physics is an ignoring of making music. After all, that is the goal of playing trumpet, isn't it?
But for those who's goal it is of playing the trumpet well... the physics does help. I believe Jaguar Brass, Harrelson, Monett would support this perspective, right?
@Dr-Mark said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
@Dr-GO said in Structure of the Trumpet by Yamaha:
The trumpeter produces sound from the trumpet by buzzing his lips.
The statement isn't so wrong as it is sexist. It should be "the" lips, not his lips.
Point well taken. Did not mean to stereotype - but was quoting from the original text - Published by Yamaha.
The wrong behind the comment, again to clarify, is that the sound does not have to be initiated through buzzing. There are other physical methods beyond buzzing to get energize the air molecules. That was the point behind my comment.
HOWEVER, related to Yamaha's interpreted sexist comment by Dr. Mark, stating to have His or her lips buzzing I would believe cover the range... hopefully!
Thanks to the administrator for continuing this thread. It really does have educational value. Look forward to many others opinions toward the original Yamaha post and its instructional value as to the workings of the trumpet. Would like to hear Rowuk's opinion as well of the Yamaha perspective.
Mr. Blee would autograph my lesson books and studies with learning tasks for the next week with: Know exercises x to a for next time. Then he would say verbally: "That will keep you off the streets."
How profound, how true, and what a powerful lesson just that phrase would provide in my life.
@Kehaulani said in Håkan Hardenberger: How To Anticipate Pitch And Breathe:
@Dr-GO said in Håkan Hardenberger: How To Anticipate Pitch And Breathe:
I think that's situational, wouldn't you say?
Yes. It is as it is a part of a teaching style.
@Jolter agreed. I am a member of the American Federation of Musicians and as a benefit have amazing coverage for a few dollars a year that my home owners agent just cannot believe. The AFM treats musicians right for sure.
I trained under Eugene Blee at the University of Cincinnati College Conservatory of Music. He encouraged me with developing my own voice. Never did he try to have me imitate him. He would ask me to sing it. But he would never sing or play a phrase from me to imitate. Giving a student to empower their own voice. Ah, that is the difference between a good and a great teacher.
Sorry. Just not digging on his sound. I kinda liked her original sound before he tried to change her. A good teacher teaches to play like them. A great teacher teaches the student to develop their own sound. He is listening but not hearing. 
To me Rowuk was the role model of moderators. Tough love is the best!
@Bob-Pixley said in Reasons to NOT Collect Trumpets:
Many people collect cheap junk that they will never play to any extent. Instead of applying that money to one good trumpet, they have 10 wall hangers instead.
I have may good trumpets 3 over $3,000 another that currently sells fo $12,400 on sale (40% off) and I play all of them.
And when I play them they are truly "off the wall!"
@tmd said in Reasons to NOT Collect Trumpets:
@Comeback said in Reasons to NOT Collect Trumpets:
Niner, your thought about letting next of kin figure out what to do with one’s stuff after death is something I frequently consider.
My jazz trio was hired to play a "life celebration" for a local trumpet player who passed away. Among his horns was his treasured CG Benge Trumpet. That trumpet never left his side. Towards the end of life, when he needed surgery, the horn when with him into the OR. The family mentioned it was being buried with him. Since that gig, my wife jokes that I'm taking my horns with me.
Mike
Ah Mike, my wife already knows my ashes go into my original Olds Recording.
@Kujo20 said in Happy Birthday Clifford!:
That could make a great topic in the medical concerns forum...the effects of overuse of smoking/drugs/alcohol in terms that relate to trumpet playing.
Will look into that and see what I can do. Nice idea Kujo!
@Comeback said in Reasons to NOT Collect Trumpets:
- Collecting consumes energy and time better spent practicing;
Can"t argue against some energy consumption, but diversion to trumpets expends less energy and money than my other focus.. cars!
- Collecting consumes cash better invested elsewhere.
Not so sure my cash is better invested in cars and I can make more on the instruments as they have increased in value as compared to my cars that have significantly decreased
- Collecting requires space - at one point my man room closet was stuffed with instruments I was not playing
That is way God created slatwall. All my trumpets are well hung from an 8 by 10 ft section of almost 2 dimensional wall space.