Posts made by Dale Proctor

@Dr-GO said in Seeking input on Rules:
“...Artists on Board... On TB this was started by a painter. It does seem to be heavily weighed toward one individual. I was the one who stated this parallel thread on TM. It was started not as a promotion, but as an acknowledgement of a painting I purchased from a prior trumpet player artist living in Florida that had a unique eye for painting the trumpet in a dynamic way. This thread then brought out a multitude of artists, as that was the point of my thread that was called "Artists among artists". It worked, as it brought out a lot of TM members passions in painting, photography, wood carvings. On TB, we just apparently do not have the same "volume" of trumpet players involved in other forms of art. Clearly we have one that is very involved and I still find it of value to see all the contributions that individual has made. With that said, it should not be a retail effort on the part of the artist, and I have not seen that to be the case. My challenge to everyone here: If you have other forms of art that you do (I know wood working is one of them as shown by several on this forum) then please contribute to that thread so it does not appear to be a one man show. As that artist originally titled the thread Artists (not Artist) on board. So Artists... Contribute.”

I would have contributed some photography, but since that thread was started by an individual to showcase his art and he never asked for other artistic input, I would feel like I was stepping on his posts.

Keep it simple - no profanity, no name calling, nothing unrelated to trumpets/cornets/flugelhorns/etc. and musical topics in general. That gives topics a pretty wide latitude without excessive rules. Be civil to your fellow members if there’s a disagreement on some point, and keep things PG in case younger people are looking in.

@scottfsmith said in Company Timelines (Besson, Diston-Keefer, Frank Holton, Vincent Bach):

One small addition to the Besson timeline, The Besson "Breveté" (patent) for the modern trumpet is from 1867. Here is an illustration from that patent .. it looks like a modern trumpet, eh? The top one is in A I think and the middle one is in C.

I am sure there were some examples made in this period but they don't appear to have survived or are still in an attic somewhere.

I’d guess the bottom one is in Eb, since that was a predominant key for brass instruments at that time, and the shape is similar to some Eb cornets.

I’ve barely touched a horn for the last couple months. I was in pretty good shape in preparation for Easter, but since then, I’ve probably dropped to the “unwashed masses” level of playing. I suppose I’m not too motivated to practice if there’s nothing to play for. It will come back pretty quickly when I hit the practice room regularly, though.

1969 Olds L12 flugelhorn with GR/Melk leadpipe. Restored by Southeastern Musical Services.

Here’s an obscure one, interesting to me because I own one of his instruments.

H. Lenhert, Philadelphia, was in business from 1867-1914. Henry G. Lehnert (1838-1916), founder of the company, arrived in Boston from Saxony ca 1860 with his brother Carl. Early Boston directories indicate that they both worked either for E. G. Wright or for Graves & Co., then joining Freemantle & Co. before establishing business as Henry Lehnert & Co. In 1866 Henry moved to Philadelphia and started his brass musical instrument manufacturing business. He held a patent for the tapered cornet leadpipe and frequently used Allen rotary valves and German silver in the manufacture of his instruments, which had a very good reputation for quality. In 1875, he patented a line of bell-forward “Centennial” lower brass instruments that rested on the player’s shoulder. From 1876 through 1914, his instruments bore the trade name "American Standard". He and his business passed away in 1916.

@OldSchoolEuph

“1894: The English firm is sold out of the Besson family”

I would add that the English firm’s name was changed to Besson & Co. at that time.

I tend to gravitate toward equipment-related discussions. Things like the history of valved instruments, differences in design, types of valves, materials used in construction, the effects of modifications, the story of various makers, etc.

There doesn’t seem to be a lot of interest in that sort of stuff around here yet, but I jump in when I can. I’ve started a few threads (as myself and earlier as Bob Pixley) in a couple of the vintage areas with little to no comments, so maybe I need to work on my presentation a bit and/or try a different angle.

@bobmiller1969
Thanks! The oval ports allow the rotors to be a smaller diameter, which makes the valve action very fast. As far as I know, only a few makers used them in the 19th century, and they were found only on their top model instruments.

@tmd said in Taps Across America:

I had an ER shift today. Stopped by a cemetery on the way home to play taps. Used my Getzen Field Trumpet.

Mike

Yet another similarity in our equipment. I used a Kanstul field trumpet today.

Took some new pics of this cool little cornet. Made from German silver, oval-port Allen valves.

Note: If you click on the pictures, they are higher resolution.

My wife took a pic as I played.

I’ll be using this field trumpet to sound Taps. A real musical instrument made by Kanstul, this one pitched in Bb. I use a Bach 6BM trumpet mouthpiece in it, which I found to give good intonation and a nice tone. I keep it in an old American-wrap cornet case. Practice mute is for warming up a bit in the car at the cemetery before a military burial.

There’s an active duty military family that live across the street, and they plan on stepping outside to listen. Just today, I found out their oldest son, who is 10, has recently begun taking trumpet lessons, so he will probably have a special interest in it.

@Curlydoc

I plan on doing it from my front porch, with the US flag displayed. Probably won’t record it, though.

Riding this activates my dopamine reward system in ways music rarely can...

All that study proves is that I’m not a rat. I’ve never taken any mind-altering drugs and I like listening to jazz and old psychedelic rock. I also like classical, baroque, big band, brass band, Western swing, klezmer, bluegrass, and who knows what else, as long as it’s done well. Opera, rap, pop, and twangy country music, not so much...

@tmd yes Mike, I remember the similarities in our instrument choices. Great minds think alike...lol

The 184G is a sweet little cornet, and pretty, too. I ditched the too-small original case shortly after I joined a brass band and bought that Jakob Winter case in the picture. It’s really nice and has room for a K&M stand (not in the bell), 3 mutes, valve oil, music glasses, music, and mouthpieces.