Posts made by Dale Proctor

“Hello! Welcome to TB, who are you?“
Well, if you read this thread, you’ll know who we are. A bunch of prototypical trumpet players who have nothing better to do than argue on line...

@J-Jericho said in A little humour:

Subject: Word Play

1. ARBITRATOR  A cook that leaves Arby’s to work at McDonald’s
2. BERNADETTE   The act of torching a mortgage.
3. BURGLARIZE What a crook sees through
4. AVOIDABLE   What a bullfighter tries to do
5. EYEDROPPER  Clumsy ophthalmologist
6. CONTROL  A short, ugly inmate.
7. COUNTERFEITER  Workers who put together kitchen cabinets
8. ECLIPSE What an English barber does for a living.
9. LEFT BANK  What the bank robbers did when their bag was full of money.
10. HEROES  What a man in a boat does
11. PARASITES  What you see from the Eiffel Tower
12. PARADOX   Two physicians
13. PHARMACIST  A helper on a farm
14. POLARIZE   What penguins see through
15. PRIMATE  Remove your spouse from in front of TV
16. RELIEF   What trees do in the spring
17. RUBBERNECK  What you do to relax your wife
18. SELFISH  What the owner of a seafood store does
19. SUDAFED  Brought litigation against a government official
20. PARADIGMS  Twenty cents
21. BUCCANEER The price of corn

I had to add #21...

Well, of course air is needed to play the trumpet. I see this as a fairly useless discussion, since the video was concerned with how much air was needed for a person to play the trumpet, not IF any air was needed. Let’s see someone play a trumpet without blowing any air through their lips. Something has to initiate a sound wave, and for a human to “play” the trumpet, air is the initiator.

@Dr-GO

My “regular” glasses are like that, but are set up for more medium distance in one lens, long distance in the other. I can still read without glasses, but had trouble with reading music at music stand distance, especially in low light situations. I measured what that distance typically is and went to my optometrist with glasses for that purpose in mind. I leave them in my case, and just switch them with my regular glasses before I sit down to play or practice. Fantastic!

What did the duck say when he was told he needed to buy a mask before he could enter the building?

“Just put it on my bill”...

@N1684T said in Hello! Welcome to TB, who are you?:

Whats the name of the civil war movie?

AJ

American Drummer Boy. I played Eb cornet in two different scenes, one as a US bandsman marching through town and the other as a CS bandsman playing a ball in a mansion. The US segment showing the band was cut. Was in one other scene not playing, just walking down a road in a column of troops. Drove to Kentucky two different weekends for a per diem and $50 a day as an extra. Big money...lol

Hello! I’m a long time cornet and trumpet (and sometimes flugelhorn) hack and ex-collector. Been playing since about 1963, played 1st trumpet in a concert band in the 1970s, was 3rd trumpet in a local semi-pro symphony orchestra for about 5 years in the 1980s, along with playing in a brass quintet and playing in the pit for numerous musicals, played Bb cornet all over the eastern U.S. in a Civil War brass band from the early 1990s until a couple years ago. We recorded one cassette tape and 4 CDs during that time, which to my surprise, sold by the thousands. I also played lead trumpet in a so-so big band for a number of years, subbed in a few more, subbed in a German band numerous times, was a founding member of a British-style brass band around 2000 and performed with them for about 15 years.

I had the privilege of recording about 20 Civil War era bugle calls on a period bugle for an interactive display at a museum in Alabama. I also participated in bands that recorded music for a couple Ken Burns PBS series, which was interesting. I played Eb cornet in a low-budget Civil War movie that went straight to DVD (lol), and also played in a Tennessee PBS special on music of the Civil War.

I retired from work (early on I worked for NASA, and then for a couple aerospace and defense contractors, but I spent the majority of my career designing fire suppression systems) at the beginning of 2020. Because most playing venues dried up due to the virus outbreak, I haven’t been doing much other than walking with my wife a lot, practicing a little, riding my vintage motorcycles, and eating healthy. When things return to normal, I play in a large church orchestra, sub in a couple big bands from time to time, play 2 or 3 Civil War gigs a year, and fill in on 2nd cornet in the brass band when needed.

There you have it - all you never wanted to know about me...

@Dr-GO said in Clean with 'alcohol'?:

@Dale-Proctor said in Clean with 'alcohol'?:

What about that spray made to disinfect mouthpieces? Label says 70% propanol, plus water and flavoring. Is it harmful? Effective?

Once again, it will work on most organisms as noted by grune. And for mouthpieces, you really don't have to worry as much regarding maintaining the moist, warm environment that is trapped in the tubing the spore creating organisms of a closed horn system. So it should be fine to use, but I would recommend a rinse with plenty of water if using immediately after spraying. If you let the spray dry, it will be fine.

Thanks. Yes, the instructions say to let it dry before using the mouthpiece.

What about that spray made to disinfect mouthpieces? Label says 70% propanol, plus water and flavoring. Is it harmful? Effective?

"Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away ." - Sir Thomas Beecham

@grune said in Mouthpiece too large?:

... People think Mr Bach invented his numbering as a coherent, graded series. This is not so. imho His numbering reflects his series of experiments. Inter-series, I have never found gradation. Intra-series, yes, I note some gradation. I have read some research indicating Bach intended to match cups B, C, D, E to the key of the horn: thus a B-cup m/p was intended for a Bb horn, a C intended for a C horn, etc. This may indeed be true, as any B cup does sound bigger and better on my Bb horn, than does a C cup. The C cup did sound and perform best with the C horn I had....

The old Bach mouthpiece literature actually says that. What I’ve always wondered is, why is there no Bach 4?...lol

"There are two sides to a trumpeter's personality: there is the one that lives only to lay waste to the woodwinds and strings, leaving them lying blue and lifeless along the swath of destruction that is a trumpeter's fury; then there's the dark side...."

--Michael Stewart

What we've got here, is failure to communicate.

And another thread jumps the shark...

@adc said in Spit Building up in MP:

@Dale-Proctor said in Spit Building up in MP:

Modern long shank and modern short shank cornet mouthpieces have the same shank taper and should have the same insertion depth. I don’t know why they shouldn’t interchange with good results as well as any other mouthpieces do. Some mouthpieces work with a given cornet, while others don’t, regardless of the shank length.

Bach and Yahama have different tapers that I just noticed. Bacg goes into the shank further. Not arguing with you Dale. The short and long shank yamaha go into the shank the same distance.

The Yahama is close to an old Conn Wonder I have but not exact.

So I guess (as Fluglegirl said) that the Yahama doesn't belong into my Bach.

Yeah, I said they should have the same insertion depth. Some of them don’t, for sure. I have a newer Wick that has a really shallow insertion, a much older Wick that inserts the “normal” amount, and all the Schilkes I’ve used insert too far. So that part of the equation is a variable for sure. That’s more a function of the mouthpiece design than the horn, though.

Modern long shank and modern short shank cornet mouthpieces have the same shank taper and should have the same insertion depth. I don’t know why they shouldn’t interchange with good results as well as any other mouthpieces do. Some mouthpieces work with a given cornet, while others don’t, regardless of the shank length.

@flugelgirl

@grune said in Mouthpiece too large?:

.... which leads to another question....
with so many excellent horns and brands these days, are we living in a golden age?

I suppose I’m still living in the past with a silver Bb Strad and a silver C Strad...lol. I did break the mold a bit with a very fancy lacquered Bach 184 cornet, though.

@flugelgirl said in Spit Building up in MP:

Generally, short or long shank will change intonation on a horn, depending on which shank it was built for. While it’s possible to use a long shank on some horns meant for a short, it’s not optimal. Horns built for a long shank will not accept a short. In general, most cornets built before 1950 take a short shank, with a few exceptions. Not sure about the condensation in yours, but if they accept a short shank, they probably should be using one. As far as car products on horns, it may not be wise to be breathing that in.... I know I wouldn’t! I would worry less about what it’s doing to the horn than what it might be doing to you.

I think the discussion is centered around modern short-shank mouthpieces like those made by Denis Wick and others (mainly for brass band use), which work just fine in modern cornets.