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    • barliman2001
      barliman2001 Global Moderator last edited by

      My first trumpet was a bugle-shaped thing with something faintly resembling a mouthpiece that I won in a raffle. Tried to get some noise out of it, succeeded after closely studying a Maurice André record cover. Next morning, bought myself a "Complete Trumpet Outfit" - Chinese Comet trumpet, mouthpiece, cleaning kit, oil bottle, case, and - yeah - a pair of small white gloves, all for less than 50 Euros. A week later, got myself a Bach Strad 43. Later sold the Bach, but kept the Comet - handy for outdoor marching and sports events.

      Courtois Balanced
      Courtois D
      Olds Recording
      Buescher Aristocrat
      Gaudet C
      Selmer G
      Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
      Besson International Bb cornet
      Courtois Bb cornet
      B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
      B&H Sovereign trombone
      Willy Garreis trombone
      Weltklang Euph

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      • edfitzvb
        edfitzvb last edited by

        My first horn was actually my brother's cornet... a King, I think. I played violin and he played cornet, but he WAS my brother, so his stuff was mine also, and I played his cornet from time to time. Then we moved to the mountains of VA and there was no string program, so I picked French Horn. About that time he got his first trumpet, a very fine large bore Selmer Radial 2. My senior year in high school I borrowed a trumpet from somebody (don't remember all these years later) in marching band where I played most stuff up an octave and earned the nickname "iron chops" from our director. Then in college (still a Horn Player as a Major) I bought MY first trumpet (thought I'd never get there, didn't you) a Conn 6B. Since then many many more along the way. Traded the 6B in on a Bach Strad. Great horns both. The Strad was stolen out of my car a few months later. Only those who have had horns stolen can understand the rage and frustration.

        1954 Olds Super/Bach 43 Uptilt Bell Frankenhorn (Bflat)
        1968 Olds Recording (Bflat)
        1965 Bach Strad 37 (Bflat)
        2011 Yamaha Xeno CH Artist (C)
        1968 Olds L-12 Flugelhorn
        1958 Conn 80A cornet
        1951 Olds Super cornet

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        • OldSchoolEuph
          OldSchoolEuph last edited by

          My first horn was a 1965 Besson compensating British baritone. It still plays amazing, though it has a lot of wear. Mid-century Besson low brass were the classic Boosey & Hawkes designs. Amazing horns.

          www.trumpet-history.com
          A Timeline of Trumpets (Amazon)
          2017 AustinWinds Stage466
          1962 Mt.V Bach 43
          1954 Holton 49
          1927 Conn 22B NYS
          1957 Holton 27 Stratodyne
          1986 Yamaha YEP-621
          1975 Yamaha YEP Custom
          1965 Besson Baritone
          1975 Olds Recording R-20

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            Jolter @Kujo20 last edited by

            @Kujo20 said in First Horns:

            My first horn was a used Yamaha YTR2320.

            Served me well for several years until I upgraded to a Xeno. The 2320 was still used as a bad weather marching horn.

            Hello, are you me?

            I started on the music school's rental YTR-2320 which had trouble with the third valve sticking. Probably impact damage on the third slide. After a couple years, my parents sprung for a used identical trumpet (minus the sticky valve).

            I still have that second horn but I'm considering selling it since it is still a decent enough player and I don't do as many marching gigs (or drunk gigs for that part) as I used to, and anyway I mostly play some kind of lower brass when marching, these days.

            Yamaha YTR-8335G
            Monke Bb trumpet
            Carol Brass flugelhorn
            YTR-6810 piccolo
            Burbank Eb/D
            Various antique cornets & horns in various keys

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            • fels
              fels last edited by

              started with a non-descript Conn. By middle school (8th or 9th grade) upgraded to an Olds Recorder. Loved the horn -- it was stolen while traveling.

              Schilke x3
              Bach Strad 37
              Courtois Flugel

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              • Shepherds_Crook
                Shepherds_Crook last edited by

                This thread makes me mad. My first trumpet was a new Conn Director rented by my folks when I was in 5th grade. I had no clue how horrible I was until 9th grade when my teacher told my folks that I was progressing well and needed to get a new trumpet. My dad agreed, and my first trumpet safari began. I played a Clark Terry Olds, Bach Strad 37 and 43, Benge 3x, 6x, and 7x, Conn Constellation, a Schilke (can’t remember the model), and the Getzen SEV that became the winner. Everything I played was light years better than that stuffy, nasty sounding Director. I couldn’t sell that Horn fast enough. I don’t want to ever see one again. I now consider those first 4 years of playing the ‘lost years’ because that horn so crippled my development.

                Blaine
                BrassHurricane@gmail.com

                Schagerl LU5A
                Adams A4 LT-S custom
                DaCarbo Unica
                Adams F1
                Schagerl PT-200S

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                • ?
                  A Former User last edited by

                  My first horn in the 5th grade was a beat up mid-60's vintage Getzen Series 300-great playing horn 🙂 I replaced that with a new Severinsen Eterna a couple of years later. Still have the Series 300....

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                  • Bertie
                    Bertie Credentialed Professional last edited by

                    My first trumpet was a Bb Jupiter made in Taiwan. Not bad. I sold it to a student.

                    After about a year, in my first year in the conservatory I got a used Yamaha Custom in C from someone in the Barcelona Symphony (one of the very first Yamaha did, still Schilke influenced), I do not remember the model, only a S in the Bell, large bore, reversed leadpipe, paper thin bell. My Bb trumpet needed to be repaired, plus the yamaha was a better professional model trumpet. So I played since then C trumpet and learned fast to transpose / sight read the Bb parts. That's why I still practice 80% of the time with the C trumpet (and because the strong french school influence then in Barcelona). I sold it too.

                    Albert Castillo

                    C Bach 229GH-25H / Bb Yamaha Chicago / C Schagerl Hörsdorf H
                    Eb Schilke E3L / picc YMH 9830 / cornet YMH Maestro

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                    • neal085
                      neal085 last edited by neal085

                      My first horn was whatever they were renting out at JT Hutchinson Junior High in Lubbock, TX. After 7th grade, when my parents saw that I actually wanted to play trumpet, they bought me a Jupiter of some description from a music store that was going out of business. Don't remember the model. Several years later I bought my own Yamaha 2335 at a Ft. Worth pawn shop. Played a lot better than its price tag, fo sho.

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                      • tmd
                        tmd last edited by

                        My first horn was a 1970-ish Olds Ambassador Trumpet. It was a standard school rental, which I got during a summer music program, the summer before starting the 4th grade. In high school, I purchased a lightweight 43 Bach Strad, which is the still my main horn today.

                        I no longer have my first horn. For sentimental reasons, I purchased a 1957 Olds Ambassador Trumpet, which Kanstul restored back in 2012. And although I wasn't looking for one, I ran across a 1957 Olds Ambassador Cornet in close-to-like-new condition, which I purchased a few years back.

                        Mike

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                        Bach Stradivarius 43* Trumpet (1974), Bach 6C Mouthpiece.
                        Olds L-12 Flugelhorn (1969), Yamaha 13F4 Mouthpiece.
                        Plus a few other Bach, Getzen, Olds, Carol, HN White, and Besson horns.

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                        • OldSchoolEuph
                          OldSchoolEuph @Shepherds_Crook last edited by

                          @Shepherds_Crook said in First Horns:

                          This thread makes me mad. My first trumpet was a new Conn Director rented by my folks when I was in 5th grade. I had no clue how horrible I was until 9th grade when my teacher told my folks that I was progressing well and needed to get a new trumpet. My dad agreed, and my first trumpet safari began. I played a Clark Terry Olds, Bach Strad 37 and 43, Benge 3x, 6x, and 7x, Conn Constellation, a Schilke (can’t remember the model), and the Getzen SEV that became the winner. Everything I played was light years better than that stuffy, nasty sounding Director. I couldn’t sell that Horn fast enough. I don’t want to ever see one again. I now consider those first 4 years of playing the ‘lost years’ because that horn so crippled my development.

                          Just imagine if you had been forced to start on an Ceccilio, a Mendini, a $69 Oswal - or a plastic toy masquerading as a trumpet. Suddenly that Director is not so bad. Kids today have not just two strikes against them, but 8 other innings.

                          www.trumpet-history.com
                          A Timeline of Trumpets (Amazon)
                          2017 AustinWinds Stage466
                          1962 Mt.V Bach 43
                          1954 Holton 49
                          1927 Conn 22B NYS
                          1957 Holton 27 Stratodyne
                          1986 Yamaha YEP-621
                          1975 Yamaha YEP Custom
                          1965 Besson Baritone
                          1975 Olds Recording R-20

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                          • Dale Proctor
                            Dale Proctor @tmd last edited by

                            @tmd said in First Horns:

                            My first horn was a 1970-ish Olds Ambassador Trumpet. It was a standard school rental, which I got during a summer music program, the summer before starting the 4th grade. In high school, I purchased a lightweight 43 Bach Strad, which is the still my main horn today.

                            I no longer have my first horn. For sentimental reasons, I purchased a 1957 Olds Ambassador Trumpet, which Kanstul restored back in 2012. And although I wasn't looking for one, I ran across a 1957 Olds Ambassador Cornet in close-to-like-new condition, which I purchased a few years back.

                            Mike

                            My first trumpet (I posted my first horn, a cornet, earlier) was a 1960 Conn 6B Victor, which I played through my last couple years of high school and sporadically through college. I quit playing for 6 or 7 years after that, but when I picked up playing again, I bought a used Bach Strad (which I still have). Being stupid, and a little financially challenged, I sold the Conn. Years later, I regretted selling it and looked for another one. I eventually found a REALLY nice one on eBay and bought it. Same year, same tweed-covered trapezoidal case with the light blue interior. Just like my old one, but in better condition. I still play the Bach most of the time, but when I need more projection and a bit more ease playing up high, I pull out the 6B and let it sing. 🙂

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                            1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
                            1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
                            1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
                            1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
                            1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
                            1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
                            1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
                            1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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                            • Kehaulani
                              Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

                              Except for the first-valvev slide trigger, what's the difference between a Conn 6B and a Connstellation?

                              Benge 3X
                              Martin Committee
                              Getzen Capri Cornet
                              Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

                              "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
                              Charlie Parker

                              "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
                              Chet Baker

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                              • Dale Proctor
                                Dale Proctor @Kehaulani last edited by

                                @Kehaulani
                                A couple slide stops, different bell engraving, and more nickel plating are the obvious differences. I’ve heard that some Connstellations had nickel-plated Coprion bells, but I don’t know for sure.

                                1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
                                1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
                                1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
                                1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
                                1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
                                1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
                                1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
                                1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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                                • Kehaulani
                                  Kehaulani Credentialed Professional @Dale Proctor last edited by

                                  @Dale-Proctor - Is there a difference in tone?

                                  Benge 3X
                                  Martin Committee
                                  Getzen Capri Cornet
                                  Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

                                  "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
                                  Charlie Parker

                                  "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
                                  Chet Baker

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                                  • Dale Proctor
                                    Dale Proctor @Kehaulani last edited by

                                    @Kehaulani
                                    I can't say. Although I've played a Connstellation some in the past (my brother has one), i havent had an opportunity to play the two side by side.

                                    1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
                                    1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
                                    1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
                                    1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
                                    1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
                                    1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
                                    1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
                                    1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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                                    • Shepherds_Crook
                                      Shepherds_Crook @OldSchoolEuph last edited by

                                      @OldSchoolEuph said in First Horns:

                                      @Shepherds_Crook said in First Horns:

                                      This thread makes me mad. My first trumpet was a new Conn Director rented by my folks when I was in 5th grade. I had no clue how horrible I was until 9th grade when my teacher told my folks that I was progressing well and needed to get a new trumpet. My dad agreed, and my first trumpet safari began. I played a Clark Terry Olds, Bach Strad 37 and 43, Benge 3x, 6x, and 7x, Conn Constellation, a Schilke (can’t remember the model), and the Getzen SEV that became the winner. Everything I played was light years better than that stuffy, nasty sounding Director. I couldn’t sell that Horn fast enough. I don’t want to ever see one again. I now consider those first 4 years of playing the ‘lost years’ because that horn so crippled my development.

                                      Just imagine if you had been forced to start on an Ceccilio, a Mendini, a $69 Oswal - or a plastic toy masquerading as a trumpet. Suddenly that Director is not so bad. Kids today have not just two strikes against them, but 8 other innings.

                                      Would be equally as horrible. It is one thing to not have the funds to buy a decent horn for your kid, but another to give them a junk ‘starter horn’ because you are cheap and just don’t know if they will stick with it. Those kids are virtually doomed from the start.

                                      Blaine
                                      BrassHurricane@gmail.com

                                      Schagerl LU5A
                                      Adams A4 LT-S custom
                                      DaCarbo Unica
                                      Adams F1
                                      Schagerl PT-200S

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                                      • Dirk020
                                        Dirk020 last edited by Dirk020

                                        schenkelaarscornet.png ![0_1588594286005_schenkelcornet.png](Uploading 100%)

                                        My first horn was an alto saxophone, borrowed from the community band but since I was a very little boy I could not fill it up with air. So the saxophone was swapped by a flugelhorn but my mother didn't recognize this as a horn so I had to bring it back and returned with a trumpet, brand: Schenkelaars, a dutch brand nothing special, not very good either, at least not the model I got.
                                        That trumpet I had to replace for a Schenkelaars cornet (an Olds Ambassador stencil) because there where cornet players needed. It was an useful instrument, not too bad. I could buy it after the band got new instruments, bought it for like $50.-
                                        I still have it, suffering heavy from red rot, leaky valves and stuck mouthpiece

                                        Getzen, Conn, Melody Maker and -too- many Warburton pieces

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                                        • Dirk020
                                          Dirk020 last edited by

                                          schenkelcornet.png

                                          Another picture of my Schenkelaars cornet. She is now only for decoration, no use to overhaul it

                                          Getzen, Conn, Melody Maker and -too- many Warburton pieces

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                                          • Newell Post
                                            Newell Post @Dirk020 last edited by

                                            @Dirk020 OK, now THAT's red rot.

                                            Bb: Bach 180S37G (05), Mercedes (80)
                                            Vintage: Committee (54), Recording (59), Super (49), Getzen Severinsen (66)
                                            C: Kanstul 1510, Constellation
                                            D/Eb: Getzen Eterna
                                            Cornet: Schilke XA1, Yamaha Neo Eb
                                            Flugel: Kanstul 1525, Yamaha 625
                                            Conch shell in F

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