Trumpet playing and dentures/implants
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This is approaching at the speed of light. Any comments about the ordeal, preparation and comeback? It is just lower jaw - for now. The teeth are fine but the bone...
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I was in my twenties and had my own teeth when I stopped playing in 1965. When I started playing again in 2016 I was 80 and had a full upper denture. I was using too much pressure the first few days of learning to play again and that was causing my dentures to unseat. Once I eliminated a lot of the pressure everything went fine. Now and then when forcing things during a long band concert, I sometimes feel the dentures come loose, but that is rare. I know you won't have any problems in the pressure department, Rowuk and with your experience I know you'd learn to make any needed adjustments quickly.
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I haven’t your level in trumpet playing but have already five implants inside my mouth... and never had any problem with them! After each surgery one week without any playing followed by one week of gradual recovery and voila…
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@dupac said in Trumpet playing and dentures/implants:
I haven’t your level in trumpet playing but have already five implants inside my mouth... and never had any problem with them! After each surgery one week without any playing followed by one week of gradual recovery and voila…
Never thought dental implants would effect voila playing! Unless you have a nervous tick and chew on the bow, just sayin.
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@Kehaulani said in Trumpet playing and dentures/implants:
Viola (got'cha again.
)Not when I have dyslexia, doG damn!
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Regarding the implants, this doesn't relate to classical playing but if all else fails, there's always the example that there is life after new teeth: Chet Baker.
I coincidently was just checking out my printer and printed out a transcribed solo by Chet. I was astounded to notice that he only played one G above the staff. The rest of the solo was lower! And it was good. Didn't need no stinking high notes!
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@Kehaulani said in Trumpet playing and dentures/implants:
Viola (got'cha again.
)did you mean, "Viola" or "Voila"
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I will keep this thread alive as a personal diary. I am not "looking" for advice, criticism or praise but those that have been through this probably have some additional stuff. Maybe we can keep the content level high to make it easier in the future to find stuff?
Step one was to pull teeth, step two is repair the jaw and after that is done and solid, the final step will be implanting anchors to hold the dentures solidly in place. This could be a year of updates. I do not recommend letting anyone smash the trumpet into your face... The trumpet was repaired far more quickly!
Well, step one happened on Monday. All the teeth on my lower jaw were removed and I got "dentures". No sutures were necessary even although one wisdom tooth was impacted.
The instructions from the doc were to leave the dentures in for 24 hours (to keep the tongue out of the sockets). Robin was a good boy. Antibiotics and Novaminsulfon pain relievers kept everything manageable. Talking is a major challenge as the tongue does not know where to go. I slept sitting up - following instructions. Porridge for breakfast, soups for lunch and dinner.
Yesterday (Tuesday) was just a maintenance day, I tired quickly and there was still a bit of bleeding. Took my antibiotics and only a pain reliever before bed. Talking is still challenged. I was able to sleep laying down. Porridge with berries for breakfast, soups for lunch and dinner.
Today, Wednesday was actually pretty good. No pain relievers needed. Still get tired faster than usual. Have trouble with all of the "S" consonants needed in english and german - lots of sibillance - sounds like a really cheap stereo! Most of the wounds are closed and there was no bleeding worth mentioning - so I pulled out my C-trumpet and played 30 minutes of easy long tones and lip slurs. Even with the dentures, everything still worked. My tone had a bit of air - but always does when I take 2 days off. Still, the only food that I can eat is minced very fine so it is immediately "swallowable". I am rinsing with salt water a couple of times per day. The dentures are staying remarkably in place but are too high on the left side. Just waiting for the swelling to go down so that adjustment makes sense. Porridge for breakfast, soups for lunch and dinner. I tried cutting up some sausages for the soup, but was not successful the first time around - they were not small enough to swallow directly. A mincer solved the problem but the sausage taste was too diluted by the soup. Probably should not have tried.
The rest of the day I spent voicing some new horns for my stereo!
Got pretty close but counter tenors still sound like crap. Well, tomorrow is also a day and I'll see how my ears work.
My next dental appointment is Monday to get the dentures adjusted. After that, I go back to work. Next concert series in 3 weeks...
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I dig that setup. I will upload a photo of my new "setup" soon. It's "sub-$5000", but I quite like it.
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@administrator Do we want to start a thread about trumpeters playbacks?
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@ROWUK said in Trumpet playing and dentures/implants:
@administrator Do we want to start a thread about trumpeters playbacks?
Yes, let's go ahead and do that. Sorry for the tangent.
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@administrator said in Trumpet playing and dentures/implants:
@ROWUK said in Trumpet playing and dentures/implants:
@administrator Do we want to start a thread about trumpeters playbacks?
Yes, let's go ahead and do that. Sorry for the tangent.
After vacationing in Aruba out hiking in the sun... I was a tan gent,
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So, it is time for an update. I still have the "predentures" but the healing is far enough along that I get good fitting ones on Thursday. I am getting 30-60 minutes per day on the trumpet and my range is pretty good again (low f# to g an octave above the staff). The ill fitting dentures do slip from time to time and then I have to stop, push them back into place and start over. Double and triple tonguing do move the dentures around, so that is something that I only do in the middle register. Due to the Corona virus, all my gigs before Easter are cancelled. My trumpet teacher Heinz Zickler turns 100 next week and he is still kicking strong! We hope to be able to celebrate.
So, I guess the moral of the story is that we are what we repeatedly do. Jumping right back in was a good thing and not caring about what works, just getting started and sticking with it pay off. I still have a way to go with the fresh dentures coming, but if they fit better, that can only be good.
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@ROWUK Great to hear that you're back playing and getting decent results. FWIW, my dad who had stopped playing cornet after getting a full top denture was talked into playing euphonium when he starting transporting me to band practice way back when. He used a denture adhesive called Fast Teeth which seemed to work for him. He did use a lot of it. I remember him saying that if he didn't remove and clean the denture straight after rehearsal or a gig, it was a couple of days before he could remove it :-).
