Posts made by Tobylou8

From a collectors standpoint, it may be too modified. The leadpipe alone and not having the A-Bb tuning mechanism would knock it down a notch or two, but, it is very seldom seen. If it plays well, then I would proceed to make it flashy! The Vocabell 40B kind of stole the peashooter "flagship" designation at Conn with it's art deco styling. I have one and it's a beauty. But even the 40B lasted less than a decade. They were just too bright to blend with normally wrapped and tapered horns. Great for solo work and rock 'n roll bands even today. Duane Massey from TM days I think used one and maybe Nieuwguyski did too.

@Dr-GO said in We're off to a good start:

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Take away TobyLou and my posts though, and we are down by half!

We both have a tendency to be loquacious.

These will have to do for now. I can't access the pictures from TM of my 12A and I can't find them on my phone or computer!

@MasterWannabe said in Newby - Need help identifying a Conn Trumpet:

@Shepherds_Crook - It plays great, I don't have much experience with "Pea Shooters", I expected it to be stuffy but definitely not, maybe .458" bore has something to do with that. I will say it does seem to be more sensitive to mouthpiece choice than a lot of horns I have tried, I play a Bach 1B most of the time and I tried the Rudy Muck 13C cushion rim that came with it and that sucked.

WOW!!! My 40B has a Rudy Muck 17C cushion rim that came with it!! What are the chances??? It too sucks!! RM mpcs must have been the JET-TONE of the day. Did you measure the bore? If it's .458, then it "has" to be a 10B New Era. The 56B and 58B were .438 bore trumpets.

@MasterWannabe said in Newby - Need help identifying a Conn Trumpet:

@Shepherds_Crook Here is one that I hope shows the copper leadpipe, if it was replaced it must have been a long time ago as it looks original.

That's a beauty and I would be confused too. I does look like a 58B with a 6B/10B Coprion pipe!! Could be the pipe got red-rot and the opportunity was taken to make it work better decades later? ALL guessing on my part though. MORE pics if you can, thanks!!

@Kehaulani said in Newby - Need help identifying a Conn Trumpet:

@Tobylou8 said in Newby - Need help identifying a Conn Trumpet:

I am not aware of any Conn trumpet or cornet from that era having a copper leadpipe. There were some copper casings on the 24B and 25B Opera Grand model but Coprion didn't make it's way to the lineup until the late '30s. I'm a sucker for copper and would love to see a picture or two or three!!! It could be someone switched it to copper to darken the tone a bit.
Here's a link to the Conn Loyalist website. It is the best resource for all things Conn that I've found. https://cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/ConnLooksTrumpet.html

Below are a 10B with copper lead pipe and bell, and a 6B late model with copper lead pipe only. These are the only vintage Conns with copper leadpipes that I'm aware of. PICS PICS PICS!!!!

That first horn looks like a 38B, except for the copper. Is it? And if so, what are the playing differences. Thanks.

6B, 8B, and 10B were all wide wrap "derivatives" of the 38B, 36B, and 28B. I wish Bochawa was here, he knows sooooo much more than I do on the Conn "tree".

It works fine from my computer, so if you can put it on your computer, it may be easier.

@MasterWannabe said in Newby - Need help identifying a Conn Trumpet:

@Tobylou8
I am new here so please how to post pictures to this.

Sorry, not as easy from the phone as I remembered. It has to be a small image in KB not MB, at least on my phone YMMV.

Take a picture with your phone then copy and paste in the reply box. It should be easy from mobile. If you have internet pictures from the ad/sale just right click, copy image, then paste in the reply box. The admin has made it easy. Well, I've forgotten how to upload from my phone!

@trickg said in need perfect pitch to play trombone ?:

@Tobylou8 said in need perfect pitch to play trombone ?:
Perfect pitch and $5 will get me a Venti Americano at Starbucks!

Yay - 20 oz of terrible coffee.

If Masterwannabe's horn is a 58B, it's a "peashooter" which were very common in that era. Conn even touted it's brilliance! They had more than a tendency to be brilliant. I have a 40B from '32 and it was too bright for a swing/big band director! Maybe someone loved the horn enough to put a coprion leadpipe on it to "tame" it? here's a 58B New Era.

@BigDub said in need perfect pitch to play trombone ?:

@Tobylou8 wow. That's you?
I have fairly decent relative pitch, and my biggest pet peeve was singing in a choir doing a capella. Me singing tenor.
The tenor section would stick to my pitch. We were continually chastised for being sharp. I would get so angry because the other sections would drop a half tone after about a couple of measures into the piece. Every time.
So, what, we had to purposely sing flat to match their wrong notes? I guess so. Apparently. I did not enjoy singing a capella with this group. It was near torture.

Torture is ear buds on Sunday morning with a female lead and no way to "escape"!!

Here's another amazing cover from Russia!!

I am not aware of any Conn trumpet or cornet from that era having a copper leadpipe. There were some copper casings on the 24B and 25B Opera Grand model but Coprion didn't make it's way to the lineup until the late '30s. I'm a sucker for copper and would love to see a picture or two or three!!! It could be someone switched it to copper to darken the tone a bit.
Here's a link to the Conn Loyalist website. It is the best resource for all things Conn that I've found. https://cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/ConnLooksTrumpet.html

Below are a 10B with copper lead pipe and bell, and a 6B late model with copper lead pipe only. These are the only vintage Conns with copper leadpipes that I'm aware of. PICS PICS PICS!!!!

@SchilkeB6 said in Torpedo Cases:

The only case i use on a gig, here is mine with my Eclipse Solr Bell and the things I carry with it.

What is the oil can for, slide grease?

@nieuwguyski said in need perfect pitch to play trombone ?:

I played trombone for 20 years or so, and was relatively decent toward the end. I don't have perfect pitch, but have pretty good relative pitch.

I played for years with a trombone player who had perfect pitch, and he was quite an excellent player. But he freely admitted that he didn't think perfect pitch was much of an advantage over excellent relative pitch.

The answer is ........ no. If the internet is correct, only 1 in 10,000 have absolute/perfect pitch. If only 1 in 10,000 joined bands, tuning would be easier! I have perfect /absolute pitch. Discovered it by accident when singing in choir. They were amazed at how I could remember the starting note on all our acapella pieces. In high school I was the pitch pipe for our chorus. It certainly makes it easier to play in tune and to let others know when they aren't within the section. When starting out in a community band, I commented that the person playing the tuning pitch was always a little sharp. I was informed that the director wanted the band tuned to 442. Made sense as to why they were sharp! I agree that it isn't a big advantage. Perfect pitch and $5 will get me a Venti Americano at Starbucks!

@BigDub said in need perfect pitch to play trombone ?:

@Newell-Post said in need perfect pitch to play trombone ?:

That is sort of like assuming singers and violinists all need perfect pitch, since their "instruments" can produce a continuum of pitches. One of my old band directors said the trombone is the only instrument in the brass section that IN THEORY has the ability to play every note perfectly in tune. In practice,.... uhhh, not so much.

And yet, with that possibility the trombone offers, so few players ( at least ones I play near ) take advantage of it!
I would only wish brass players just have a basic sense of pitch. The knowledge of when they are off a bit, and I mean quite a bit. Is that too much to ask?

C'mon man! Next thing you're gonna ask of them is to practice!!

@mdwilliams said in Shallowest flugel mouthpieces?:

What options are there for SHALLOW flugel pieces without going custom?

Before anyone goes crazy and gets their panties in a bunch, I'm not planning to use this on flugel. I do prefer deeper V shaped peices on flugel in general.

I do have a 1915 Martin slide trumpet that takes a flugel shank mouthpiece. I'd like to get a brighter more trumpet like tone.

Thanks!

Hmm, you could check Stork's website, they list their specs. But, "shallow" in flugel is relative for flugel. I have a shallow Stork Vacchiano that is cavernous.