@Comeback said in Frustrated:
Glad to see you posting here, OldSchoolEuph. I have learned from what you have written on TH and TM. Hopefully this young site will mature into a reliably useful helpful resource.
I imagine I'll post here more often now that I have figured out that I need to use Chrome to have site functionality (yesterday....I'm slow)
Not having seen the most recent casualty, I am unfamiliar with the offending content. I will acknowledge that content which meets the legal threshold for defamation, or which falls into a category of inciting violence or otherwise inflicting tangible harm, cannot remain - it places the site at risk.
Other than that though, a signature quote by one of the folks I respect over at TH had me thinking about Huxley today, and here is an obscure quote I think is relevant to this topic: "Everyone who wants to do good to the human race always ends in universal bullying" - can be applied either way. . .
Although I was pretty active on TM, I haven't spent much time using this site. This has been firstly because of the non-functioning nature of much of its content using either IE under windows 10 or Safari on an old iPad, but also because of it only recently not tripping security filters various places.
Out of frustration with TH, and the heavy-handed "moderation" that obliterated incredibly valuable socio-cultural artifacts in the form of real time discussions of events such as the Kanstul into BAC saga because some moderator didn't like something someone said, I popped in here today to see what was new. Imagine my disappointment that one of the first threads I see is a notice that content has been deleted.
He who controls the press controls the truth. It is sad, but it is the truth in the adage that history is written by the victors.
People have opinions, and at times opinions can be biased, or even offensive. I also believe most people have the ability to recognize what should be ignored - especially if respected posters counter-post politely.
I take time and effort to post content that might be of use to others; to share and to make available resources for information within the industry and academia that I am very blessed to have (or is "fortunate" more PC to say?) available to those seeking answers online. When threads vanish, I am left wondering "why bother? ". If others, including all those smarter than me, start to feel the same, what does that imply for the future value of content here?
Yes, content that is truly defamatory cannot remain because of the liability that incurs, but why not remove that content only? Why not act against the offender rather than the offense when possible?
Censorship is transforming in an Orwellian manner more and more these days into a "defense" of free speech. Surely a community of musicians can find a better way.
Why do geologists collect rocks, or paleontologists collect rocks with things in them? It is the only way to research, learn and grow in understanding of the subject.
Here is what I said about the topic on the back cover of A Timeline of Trumpets:
"... The story of these instruments and their makers has been obscured by apathy and accident, lost to fires, theft, and deliberate destruction - even through false histories developed by some makers as marketing hype.
Rediscovering their story then becomes an archaeological exercise, with EBay as a virtual dig site and the horns a fossil record. Sparse catalogs become Rosetta stones.
Trumpets have been a part of our culture since before there were humans. They have served as expressions of emotion, tools of the hunter-gatherer, tools of the warrior, and ultimately once again as a means of expressing that emotion from deep within the human soul that manifests as music. To look at how the trumpet has transformed in its role in human society is to look at how human society itself has transformed. And, as a material object once adapted from nature, but which took new forms as the successive technologies of metal-working, component sub-assembly fabrication, machining, high-force mechanical forming, and ultimately automation transformed the abilities of humans to make objects for their use, it is a microcosm of human technological and socio-economic evolution."
That's why I collect.
It amazes me how much of this thread seems to equate energy required to produce a given dynamic with "takes more air". Seems like just another discussion of "resistance" in many respects.
When it come to actual fluid flow, there are two factors. For the equipment, the mouthpiece throat determines flow at a given pressure. The bore simply cannot be relevant because it is not the venturi. The other point at which flow can differ is the embouchure, with some folks needing more flow through to vibrate as greater energy into the horn is required to produce the desired result. At some point, these will come into conflict if the player is too inefficient in their part, and the pressure in the cup will exceed what the orifice at its base can flow, resulting in leaks around the edge.
But when a horn "takes more air", it is because we opt to increase the embouchure flow rate as a means of stepping up energy input to the horn, not because of some vacuum to fill with a 0.003" larger diameter tube. (Bach ML to L)
The Selmer Bundy brand originated in 1941. The oldest Bundy I have encountered is a Bundy stenciled pea shooter from a supplier I can't identify (scroll down the Virtual Museum at www.trumpet-history.com for a pic) The Bundy name was a stencil brand Selmer used on sourced low cost instruments for many many years, so the 2008 sale of the name to the Guitar Center Group really just returns it to its roots. The classic Selmer made Bundy d signed by Bach was designed at the same time as the Bach 180 in 1962, replacing a somewhat similar Selmer built trumpet. The design was substantially altered by Bach in the mid 1980s and became the Bach TR-300, but with Bundy serial numbers through the end of the decade at least.