@Kehaulani said in Tuning Tendencies:
@Dr-GO said in Tuning Tendencies:
Dr. Mark, you don't have to play squirlly to get the Committee to play in tune . . . Bob Grey, a well known educator in Cincinnati and I played the first trumpet part in a concert band.
You use a Committee in concert band?
Yes. And Chris Botti uses it on classical pieces and neither of us use the third valve slide. Why does this shock you?
@Dr-Mark said in Jaw Position and the Upper Register:
@Dr-GO said in Jaw Position and the Upper Register:
When you use the vertical smile embouchure, the lower jaw is less a function in this equation. Those superior muscle insertion points take all the stress off the jaw it is that efficient!
Hi Dr.GO,
a. How does "those superior muscle insertion points take all the stress off the jaw"?
LOOK closely at the muscle insertions on the reference diagram. The more muscle insertions (on the Zygimatic arch) the less effort and energy is needed as a unit to lift the jaw. There is 70% more muscle at play in the Vertical smile than the traditional lateral smile (the buzz smile). LOOK AT THE DIAGRAM and study it. It makes perfect physiologic sense.
@Kehaulani said in Jaw Position and the Upper Register:
Could someone please tell me what a vertical embouchure is?
I have posted it THREE times, this is now the FOURTH: Please refer to post 11 under: Problems with Air and Nose https://www.trumpetboards.com/topic/398/problems-with-air-and-nose/17 to find my description, diagrams and video of me playing with the vertical smile. Make sure you focus on my cheeks to see the effect of the muscles I use.
@Dr-Mark said in Tuning Tendencies:
@Dr-GO said in Tuning Tendencies:
That rule does not apply to the Marten Committee. That horn has such dirty slotting, that the ear can feedback the ability to sound the note into tune without the need to use slide.
I have a 1953 Martin and yes, the sucker is squirrelly and I can lip it around like crazy but using the slides comes across a lot cleaner for me.
Dr. Mark, you don't have to play squirlly to get the Committee to play in tune on 1.3; 1,2,3 notes. Bob Grey, a well known educator in Cincinnati and I played the fist trumpet part in a concert band. He was yanking on the trumpets for not using their third valve slides on these noted. Then he looked at me and said, "you don't even have one". I said to him to turn his tuner on. He did. I hit the D solid and his line went straight up. He said: "I;ll be damned". I did not have to lip or squirl. You have to meet with me sometime and I will have to teach you how to play the Committee.
The jaw positioning IS probably more relevant for the frown embouchure were the insertion of muscles used in that technique is mostly at the lower jaw.
JUST REMEMBER, ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL
Once again, this only applies to the buzz (lateral smile) embouchure. When you use the vertical smile embouchure, the lower jaw is less a function in this equation. Those superior muscle insertion points take all the stress off the jaw it is that efficient!
@Dr-Mark said in Tuning Tendencies:
Thanks Trumpetsplus!
I wish I had a nickel everytime I had to say to a student, "Don't forget your slides!"
Thanks for your stamp of approval. It carries a lot of weight.
That rule does not apply to the Marten Committee. That horn has such dirty slotting, that the ear can feedback the ability to sound the note into tune without the need to use slide. Look at picture of Miles and Chris Botti when playing the Committee. Many of those pictures showing the artist plays those particular horns with the third valve slide ring removed. I too found this so true on my horn, and am now playing that horn tuning slide ring free.
@Dr-Mark said in Interesting composition tool: Impro-Visor:
Yes, listening to one's self can be down right painful.
Not necessarily so if you choose the right wine!
Let's link the above post to keep onto the subject of Range Improvement so readers do not think we digress:
So Dr. Mark is with the above lady and begins rubbing her belly and he starts chanting in his usual voice:
"I love you, I love you, I love you".
The lady says to Dr. Mark: "Lower"
So Dr. Mark reacts, deepens his voice to a lower Range and says:
"I love you, I love you, I love you".
In this case, Dr. Mark.... You need more practice!
@Dr-Mark said in Range Improvement:
Whew Dr-GO,
"Listening is the sensory reception of sound. HEARING is the integration of the sound you just listened to. Hearing is the goal, not listening."
I won't insult your intelligence by definition but is this what you mean??
Let me give you an example:
You see a bee. You listen for the buzz it makes to detect it when it flies behind your head. The sound you listen for registers that it is the sound of a bee (from prior experience). You the react now the defined sound by moving away from that sound. See, sound identifies and allows you to react to what you were listening to.
Another Example:
A pretty lady approaches to your ear an whispers sweat somethings in it that you listen for. You then hear those sounds as foreplay and you react to it by realizing your pants feel a bit tighter. Now Dr. Mark... Do you want to just listen to that whisper or do you want to hear it and then react to it? Of course the rest of the hotel will hear the Ohooo Ohooo Ohooo that follows, and they will then fantasize.
Do you hear what I'm saying Dr. Mark?
@Dr-GO said in What Does The Tongue Do When The Trumpet Is Played:
Department of Speech & Hearing Sciences, Washington State University Spokane, PO.
Just noticed where this research was done! Could Vulgano Brother have been one of the "subjects"? Mwaahaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@Niner said in How about a "Random Meaningless Image...let's see them string"?:
@Niner said
But when you turn out the lights... It's Mwaaaa Whaaaa
@Dr-Mark said in Lead found in brass horn mouthpieces:
@Dr-GO said in Lead found in brass horn mouthpieces:
No but they can cause owies!
That's why you keep suckers and small candies. A little something after the owies!
Nah. We use the candies and suckers to hype up the kids so we can diagnosis ADHD and put them on Ritalin. Requires monthly follow up because this is a controlled substance. That means lots of money for the practice! Candies and suckers are my money makers!
@ButchA said in DUH!! I finally figured it out, after all these years! (playing with minimal pressure):
I played a gig tonight (6:00 - 8:00) at a local pub here in town, as a prelude to the annual Oktoberfest... a simple adjustment to my embouchure!
I can see the frown!
@Dr-Mark said in Range Improvement:
@Dr-GO said in Range Improvement:
But the key is to go beyond listening and hear the horn.
...So often when people play, they only hear the horn. I try and teach them to listen...
Minimal Structure Theory Dr. Mark.. Read it closely. Listening is easy. It is the first step. But unless you INTEGRATE the listening, it will not become a part of you. Listening is the sensory reception of sound. HEARING is the integration of the sound you just listened to. Hearing is the goal, not listening.
Do you HEAR the jazz musicians reply back to you: "I'm listening you, Man!" No. They say "I'm hearing you, Man!" That last comment is the prize. That's is the gratification that gives you goose bump. Hearing, goes beyond the listening.
@Dr-Mark said in TM Refugee - Late to the Party.:
Hi Dr-GO
I've learned riffs (stolen!) from people like Coltrane, Rollins, Phil Woods, Pete Chrisleib, Mike Brecker, to name a few. However, I can't recall ever chasing down a Kenny G lick.
What Dr. Mark... you mean you don't hold a "Kenny" G note out for 59 minutes?
My horns give me new revolutions every day. Their feedback is kind, regarded and then with hearing them they show me where to go, steering past perfection and beyond.
But the key is to go beyond listening and hear the horn. Hear the horn!
@Dr-Mark said in Lead found in brass horn mouthpieces:
@flugelgirl said in Lead found in brass horn mouthpieces:
I would worry more about the grandkids getting their vaccinations and eating their vegetables than from lead poisoning from your mouthpiece that has not yet affected you after years of playing.
So true. And vaccinations do not cause autism.
No but they can cause owies!
@Dr-Mark said in Range Improvement:
@Dr-GO said in Range Improvement:
Careful Dr. Mark. Don't EVER achieve perfection. That, my good friend, will hold you back. Yes?
...Haven't you had a time when you were practicing and play something so great you get goosebumps and you have to sit your horn down and say to yourself, "That's perfect!"
The Goosebumps happen every day. But I never reflect on perfect... as the next day I transform to yet a higher level. To stop at perfection, is to stop short. I can never be convinced otherwise.
@GeorgeB said in A Closer Walk With Thee:
...What kind of mute were you using. It sounded somewhat metallic.
It was on old 1960's vintage Harmon mute on my 1967 Olds Recording with a torn felt on the second valve (you can hear the clicks in the recording). Its fixed and refurbished now!
