This trumpet is a production model from Olds. The catalog page shown below indicates it was intended for marching band, as Rowuk noted. I (formerly known as Bob Pixley…lol) still have it and it’s still in the case in a closet. BTW, the D slide is a custom one Southeastern Musical Services built for me, not the optional Olds factory slide.
Wal-Mart sell plastic cases in the crafts department. Perfect fit for mouthpieces…lol
@ssmith1226 said in Difference between trumpet and cornet:
@j-jericho
Trumpet- Cylindrical Bore
Cornet- Conical Bore
The ratio of conical to cylindrical tubing is about the same in a typical cornet and typical trumpet. What makes the difference is the rate of flare in the conical parts. A good cornet should have a more pronounced flare in the conical areas.
@curlydoc said in How many is too many?:
@dale-proctor What is second from bottom middle column?
It’s a 1923 Conn 22B trumpet with a rotary valve in the tuning slide to switch from Bb to A.
@administrator said in How many is too many?:
Is that 3 bugles I see?
Yes. The top one is a Kanstul Bb field trumpet, the middle one is a U.S. Regulation G field trumpet, and the bottom one is a cheap copy of a Bb British duty bugle.
I think this photo shows the most I ever owned at one time.
@tptguy said in Real Strad?:
Thank you Dale...of all the strange things about this trumpet( I had never seen a model 182) the serial number starting with 3 zeros was(is) the most concerning to me. But I value your knowledge.
Tk's againG.
You’re welcome. Yes, the serial numbers for those didn’t follow the Bach numbering progression, either. They were made during the Elkhart Bach factory strike as a way to maintain a minimal level of production until the strike was settled.
@georgeb said in Helloooooo:
After my retirement 20 years ago my 6 figure income dropped to 5 figures on the low side. My reportable income hasn't changed much these past 20 years. But I get by.
George
So far (2+ years) we’re living the good life on Social Security. House, cars, etc. are paid for and we haven’t touched any of our retirement accounts.
It’s a real Bach, a model 182 made in their Eastlake, Ohio facility around 2007. The bells read “Handcrafted in the U.S.A”.
“The Bach Stradivarius model 182 trumpet features a standard weight #37 one piece bell and #25 leadpipe, a lightweight body and a .459” bore. This particular combination, along with traditional Bach design values and classic features, responds quickly and delivers a quality of sound that is distinctly Bach. The instrument outfit includes a genuine gold plated Vincent Bach mouthpiece and a professional classic style case. The instrument is available in bright silver plate.”
@kehaulani said in Helloooooo:
Gee. Three times in taxes as many make in salary. I feel so inadequate.
If it makes you feel any better, our reportable income for last year was a little over $3400…
I’ve been pretty busy moving into a new house and with rehearsals for Easter playing.
Looks like a peashooter stencil horn. I used to have one that looked very similar, and had “Crusader” engraved in the shield. It was not a very good playing trumpet and had a really bright sound.
Looks like a cornet on the trumpet player sign, though…lol
@tmd said in Arriving next week - Bach 184 Cornet:
@dale-proctor said in Arriving next week - Bach 184 Cornet:
Nice! I have a large bore 184G from the early 1990s and really enjoy playing it.
A 184G large bore is pretty cool. I had been looking for a 184 at the right price for a couple years.
Mike
Well, we both have a 43 Strad and an Olds L-12, so why not get a Bach 184?…lol
Years ago, I needed a good cornet for the brass band I had recently joined. I wanted a large bore 184 with the gold brass bell and the fancy Bach engraving, but the local dealers wouldn’t order a new one for me. I eventually found a used one, sans engraving, and bought it. Later on, I had Sherry Huntley lay that engraving on it and I’ve been a happy camper ever since.
Nice! I have a large bore 184G from the early 1990s and really enjoy playing it.
The bell flare looks to have a lot of ripples in it. If you have a really good tech who’s local, they could probably roll most of that out without costing you a lot of money. That is, unless it’s already been rolled and the metal was thinned and stretched. A nicer looking flare would certainly make for an easier sale and probably get you a higher price, too. Of course, the price ultimately depends on who’s bidding on it at any given time.
It’s an Olds in name only, produced by the company that bought the rights to the name after Olds went out of business in 1979. Some features do look like those on the Ambassador model trumpet, though. I’ve never played one, so I can’t give any info on the quality of the instrument.
Copper will wear faster and corrodes much easier than nickel. For a horn I planned on playing, I’d go with nickel.
I’d guess it’s from the 1930s, since it has the older style valve body, caps, and finger buttons. It also has a pinky hook, a 2nd valve slide that sticks straight out, and no brace from the leadpipe down to the 3rd valve slide. Some of the parts aren’t correct, such as the braces between the bell and leadpipe, and the mouthpiece receiver, so it’s difficult to be certain about it. Have you measured the bore size? There were other Conn cornet models that looked like the 80A, but had smaller bores.