TrumpetBoards.com
    • Register
    • Login
    • Search
    • Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Groups

    Caring for Silver Plate Horns

    Instruments Discussion
    10
    20
    655
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • GeorgeB
      GeorgeB last edited by GeorgeB

      For some time I have only owned one silver plate trumpet, but recently I got a great deal on a new Getzen 490 silver plate trumpet. The other is a 1952 Selmer that was cared for by a tech pre-covid days and I haven't been polishing it. It doesn't look very silverish these days. So now with two silver horn, can someone give me suggestions on what the best silver polish brands are and what is the proper way to polish a silver trumpet.

      1960s King Super 20 Silversonic, 1940 Olds Recording, 1942 Buescher True Tone 400 ,1999 Conn Vintage One Bb trumpet, A 1952 Selmer Paris, A 2020 Getzen 400 and a Manchester Brass ACB custom pro Bb trumpet, a 1962 Conn Victor 5A Cornet.

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • Dr GO
        Dr GO last edited by

        I use a silver cloth to polish my Getzen Eterna flugelhorn after I play it, and about twice a year will place it in hot water on an aluminum foil base, then put in baking soda and salt and let it sit for a half hour or so. I then wipe it down with a fiber cloth after that soak.

        Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
        Harrelson Summit 2017
        Kanstul 1526 2012
        Getzen Power Bore 1961
        Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
        Martin Committee 1946
        Olds Super Recording 1940
        Olds Recording (LA) 1953
        Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
        Olds Ambassador 1965

        GeorgeB 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • Dale Proctor
          Dale Proctor last edited by

          I use a very mild liquid silver polish on a soft cloth. Do you leave your silver plated horns out of their cases when you’re not playing them? If so, they will tarnish much faster than if they’re in a closed case. I keep mine in their cases and don’t have to polish them but every year or two.

          1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
          1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
          1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
          1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
          1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
          1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
          1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
          1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

          Dr GO GeorgeB 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • Dr GO
            Dr GO @Dale Proctor last edited by

            @Dale-Proctor said in Caring for Silver Plate Horns:

            ...they will tarnish much faster than if they’re in a closed case. I keep mine in their cases and don’t have to polish them but every year or two.

            I have noted this as well. I have kept my horns now mounted on a wall (slat board with supports) for 5 years and they do not tarnish near as often.

            Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
            Harrelson Summit 2017
            Kanstul 1526 2012
            Getzen Power Bore 1961
            Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
            Martin Committee 1946
            Olds Super Recording 1940
            Olds Recording (LA) 1953
            Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
            Olds Ambassador 1965

            Kehaulani 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • GeorgeB
              GeorgeB @Dr GO last edited by

              @Dr-GO
              The tech that used to look after my horn back when things were normal, and he advised me to not use a silver polish cloth as they remove some silver every time you use them, so I have only used microfiber cloths on all my horns.

              1960s King Super 20 Silversonic, 1940 Olds Recording, 1942 Buescher True Tone 400 ,1999 Conn Vintage One Bb trumpet, A 1952 Selmer Paris, A 2020 Getzen 400 and a Manchester Brass ACB custom pro Bb trumpet, a 1962 Conn Victor 5A Cornet.

              Dr GO 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • GeorgeB
                GeorgeB @Dale Proctor last edited by GeorgeB

                @Dale-Proctor

                Yeah, my horns are always on display on stands in the music room. But I now have a satin cover that just slips over the two silver horns . Hey, they are pretty and I like to look at them...☺

                What brand of silver polish are you using ?

                1960s King Super 20 Silversonic, 1940 Olds Recording, 1942 Buescher True Tone 400 ,1999 Conn Vintage One Bb trumpet, A 1952 Selmer Paris, A 2020 Getzen 400 and a Manchester Brass ACB custom pro Bb trumpet, a 1962 Conn Victor 5A Cornet.

                Dale Proctor 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • Dr GO
                  Dr GO @GeorgeB last edited by

                  @GeorgeB said in Caring for Silver Plate Horns:

                  @Dr-GO
                  The tech that used to look after my horn back when things were normal, and he advised me to not use a silver polish cloth as they remove some silver every time you use them, so I have only used microfiber cloths on all my horns.

                  GeorgeB, you are correct. I prefer the sodium bicarb bath, but the wipe down is not a daily thing but rather once a month. I figure there is enough silver plating to endure that frequency.

                  Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                  Harrelson Summit 2017
                  Kanstul 1526 2012
                  Getzen Power Bore 1961
                  Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                  Martin Committee 1946
                  Olds Super Recording 1940
                  Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                  Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                  Olds Ambassador 1965

                  Dr GO 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                  • Dr GO
                    Dr GO last edited by

                    By the way, the REAL NICE thing about the aluminum-silver electro-chem plating is the tarnish (Silver Sulfide) undergoes reduction to silver metal and the aluminum is converted to Aluminum Sulfide, such that the silver is reclaimed by the horn so there is no worry about gradual loss of plating by that method.

                    Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                    Harrelson Summit 2017
                    Kanstul 1526 2012
                    Getzen Power Bore 1961
                    Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                    Martin Committee 1946
                    Olds Super Recording 1940
                    Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                    Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                    Olds Ambassador 1965

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                    • Dr GO
                      Dr GO @Dr GO last edited by

                      @Dr-GO said in Caring for Silver Plate Horns:

                      @GeorgeB said in Caring for Silver Plate Horns:

                      @Dr-GO
                      The tech that used to look after my horn back when things were normal, and he advised me to not use a silver polish cloth as they remove some silver every time you use them...

                      I tried using this effect on me, wiping down my arms and legs... but damn, the same old skin persists!

                      Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                      Harrelson Summit 2017
                      Kanstul 1526 2012
                      Getzen Power Bore 1961
                      Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                      Martin Committee 1946
                      Olds Super Recording 1940
                      Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                      Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                      Olds Ambassador 1965

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                      • Kehaulani
                        Kehaulani Credentialed Professional @Dr GO last edited by

                        @Dr-GO said in Caring for Silver Plate Horns:
                        I have noted this as well. I have kept my horns now mounted on a wall (slat board with supports) for 5 years and they do not tarnish near as often.

                        No tarnish but they're filled with cockroaches. 😁

                        Benge 3X
                        Martin Committee
                        Getzen Capri Cornet
                        Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

                        "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
                        Charlie Parker

                        "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
                        Chet Baker

                        Dr GO OldSchoolEuph 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 1
                        • Dr GO
                          Dr GO @Kehaulani last edited by

                          @Kehaulani said in Caring for Silver Plate Horns:

                          @Dr-GO said in Caring for Silver Plate Horns:
                          I have noted this as well. I have kept my horns now mounted on a wall (slat board with supports) for 5 years and they do not tarnish near as often.

                          No tarnish but they're filled with cockroaches. 😁

                          And I thought that sound was just me hitting my double high C!!!

                          Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                          Harrelson Summit 2017
                          Kanstul 1526 2012
                          Getzen Power Bore 1961
                          Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                          Martin Committee 1946
                          Olds Super Recording 1940
                          Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                          Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                          Olds Ambassador 1965

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • OldSchoolEuph
                            OldSchoolEuph @Kehaulani last edited by

                            @Kehaulani said in Caring for Silver Plate Horns:

                            @Dr-GO said in Caring for Silver Plate Horns:
                            I have noted this as well. I have kept my horns now mounted on a wall (slat board with supports) for 5 years and they do not tarnish near as often.

                            No tarnish but they're filled with cockroaches. 😁

                            They're not as disconcerting as those scorpions...

                            www.trumpet-history.com
                            A Timeline of Trumpets (Amazon)
                            2017 AustinWinds Stage466
                            1962 Mt.V Bach 43
                            1954 Holton 49
                            1927 Conn 22B NYS
                            1957 Holton 27 Stratodyne
                            1986 Yamaha YEP-621
                            1975 Yamaha YEP Custom
                            1965 Besson Baritone
                            1975 Olds Recording R-20

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • Dale Proctor
                              Dale Proctor @GeorgeB last edited by Dale Proctor

                              @GeorgeB said in Caring for Silver Plate Horns:

                              @Dale-Proctor

                              Yeah, my horns are always on display on stands in the music room. But I now have a satin cover that just slips over the two silver horns . Hey, they are pretty and I like to look at them...☺

                              What brand of silver polish are you using ?

                              Wright’s liquid silver polish. This trumpet is 44 years old, and I’ve played (and polished) it for the 40 or so years I’ve owned it. No silver loss from polishing, but a little wear where I’ve held it.

                              870B65F9-1CF5-4D3D-BDBD-A54A8424A3CD.jpeg

                              1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
                              1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
                              1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
                              1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
                              1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
                              1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
                              1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
                              1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

                              Newell Post 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
                              • Shifty
                                Shifty last edited by

                                One vote here for 3m/Scotchguard Tarnishield. Works well with very little rubbing, and seems to delay the return of the tarnish for quite a while.

                                Getzen Eterna 700, Eterna 800
                                Conn Connstellation 28A, Victor 80A, Connqueror (1903)
                                ACB Doubler Flugelhorn

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • Shepherds_Crook
                                  Shepherds_Crook last edited by

                                  I’ve used Hagerty’s Silver Polish since 1978. Light blue bottle of liquid polish is my preference with a microfiber cloth or a cloth diaper (super soft). Apply with a sponge (I used the little circle sponges that came with my Getzen SEV from 1978 - 2004). They also make a Soft paste that comes in a Round container that has a sponge in it. Apply light amount, let is sit for just a moment and wipe it off. Easy on and easy off with no pressure. Can usually find it at Kroger or even a hardware store.

                                  Blaine
                                  BrassHurricane@gmail.com

                                  Schagerl LU5A
                                  Adams A4 LT-S custom
                                  DaCarbo Unica
                                  Adams F1
                                  Schagerl PT-200S

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • J. Jericho
                                    J. Jericho Global Moderator last edited by J. Jericho

                                    If I can see the tarnish, I use Flitz with cotton balls and cotton swabs.
                                    5353d79d-18d3-4c3f-a812-28e04e1b815d-image.png

                                    From then on, I wipe the horn and mouthpiece down after every use with Goddard's Polishing Cloth.
                                    26e4a76e-4916-4fdb-89b4-b576aed715cb-image.png

                                    '62 Olds Studio Trumpet
                                    '67 Olds Special Trumpet
                                    2013 Dillon Pocket Trumpet
                                    '83 Yamaha YFH-731 Flugelhorn
                                    1919 York Perfec-Tone Cornet
                                    '50 Olds Studio Trombone
                                    Shofar

                                    "If it was just up to me, I'd only have trumpet players on my show." - Jackie Gleason

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • flugelgirl
                                      flugelgirl Qualified Repair Techs Veterans & Military Musicians last edited by

                                      Really, your silver polish cloth is not going to be able to remove enough silver for you to be able to notice, let alone do damage. When I was in school, I bought a trumpet at a pawn shop that had been rubbed down with Scotch Brite - someone’s attempt at a matte finish. I thought it would always be ugly, but learned that if there is enough silver left it’s possible to buff it back to shiny using the right methods. Except for a couple of spots that had already been scrubbed down to raw brass, you’d never know anything happened to it! My friend’s kid is playing it now 😊
                                      I have found that anti- tarnish strips left in a case make a big difference, as do wiping handprints off after playing. Also, refrain from touching every flat surface of the horn, and you’ll have less to wipe off.

                                      Daily players: Adams A1, A4LT, F2 flugel , CN1 cornet.
                                      Schagerl Raweni
                                      Puje 3am(named for me), Benge pocket
                                      Schilke P5-4, C5L
                                      Yamaha 761 Eb/D
                                      Lots of vintage toys

                                      GeorgeB 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
                                      • Newell Post
                                        Newell Post @Dale Proctor last edited by

                                        @Dale-Proctor Wright's is good. I have used it for years. In theory, I suppose it removes a few molecules. But I haven't seen any detrimental effects.

                                        Bb: Bach 180S37G (05), Mercedes (80)
                                        Vintage: Committee (54), Recording (59), Super (49), Getzen Severinsen (66)
                                        C: Kanstul 1510, Constellation
                                        D/Eb: Getzen Eterna
                                        Cornet: Schilke XA1, Yamaha Neo Eb
                                        Flugel: Kanstul 1525, Yamaha 625
                                        Conch shell in F

                                        GeorgeB 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                        • GeorgeB
                                          GeorgeB @flugelgirl last edited by

                                          @flugelgirl

                                          Thanks for that info. I will go back to using my silver polish cloth.

                                          1960s King Super 20 Silversonic, 1940 Olds Recording, 1942 Buescher True Tone 400 ,1999 Conn Vintage One Bb trumpet, A 1952 Selmer Paris, A 2020 Getzen 400 and a Manchester Brass ACB custom pro Bb trumpet, a 1962 Conn Victor 5A Cornet.

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • GeorgeB
                                            GeorgeB @Newell Post last edited by

                                            @Newell-Post
                                            Thank you, and everyone here for your help. One of my bandmates said he used Wrights so I guess I'll give that a go.

                                            1960s King Super 20 Silversonic, 1940 Olds Recording, 1942 Buescher True Tone 400 ,1999 Conn Vintage One Bb trumpet, A 1952 Selmer Paris, A 2020 Getzen 400 and a Manchester Brass ACB custom pro Bb trumpet, a 1962 Conn Victor 5A Cornet.

                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • 1 / 1
                                            • First post
                                              Last post