Chet on Commitee?
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Not the greatest solo in the world, but is this a Committee Chet's playing? I've hear him on a myriad of horns but not specifically a Committee, that I'd know about.
BTW, that is Mussolini's son on bass and the funny story is that, when he first met Mussolini, he patted him on the shoulder and said. "That's a drag what they did to your old man".
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At 4:38 you can see the slide area and that is a Committee spit valve. There also is no tuning brace. At 6:46 you get a quick glimpse of the 3rd slide and it does look like a Committee spit valve. I'm saying "Yes" it's a Committee.
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@Kehaulani
Romano Mussolini, who died in 2006, is the pianist and Franco Cerri is on Bass. Cerri is also a respected guitarist.
Here are two interesting articles about Romano Mussolini: https://jazztimes.com/archives/romano-mussolini-dictators-son-and-jazz-musician-dies/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1509575/Romano-Mussolini.htmll
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Ah, pianist. My bad. Funny story, anyway. Interesting info from you, both. Thank you.
Then, a related question. If you closed your eyes, would you be able to say that Chet was playing a Committee, contrasting his sound on other horns? Let's stick with pre-embouchure damage. (1966).
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The very-obtuse-angle bell braces also look like Committee (0:49). If I heard the audio without the visal, I would probably say "maybe Committee, maybe not."
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Looks like a Committee in many ways.
Bell bracing looks like the Committee:
No tuning slide bracing
And this pic of the water keys at 4:35 is the classic "trombone" Committee Style:
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Fascinating!
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Chet played a whole bunch of different horns over the years. He kept pawning them to buy heroin.
Bb: Bach 180S37G (05), Mercedes (80)
Vintage: Committee (54), Recording (59), Super (49), Getzen Severinsen (66)
C: Kanstul 1510, Constellation
D/Eb: Getzen Eterna
Cornet: Schilke XA1, Yamaha Neo Eb
Flugel: Kanstul 1525, Yamaha 625
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He also borrowed them from other players when he didn’t have one.
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@Newell-Post said in Chet on Commitee?:
Chet played a whole bunch of different horns over the years. He kept pawning them to buy heroin.
I sold a piccolo trumpet once to buy a bicycle. Same thing.
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@administrator said in Chet on Commitee?:
@Newell-Post said in Chet on Commitee?:
Chet played a whole bunch of different horns over the years. He kept pawning them to buy heroin.
I sold a piccolo trumpet once to buy a bicycle. Same thing.
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I can only handle Chet once in a while. His music depresses me.
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@administrator To paraphrase the old nursery rhyme, ...when he was good he was very good, when he was bad he was horrid!
Perhaps unfairly, my perceptions of his playing are influenced by his seeming disregard for those people who loved/cared for him. That said, I have a significant number of his recordings and return to them in the hope my feelings change.
However, the less said about his singing the better.
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@administrator said in Chet on Commitee?:
I can only handle Chet once in a while. His music depresses me.
That criteria sure eliminates a lot of art.
Regarding his treatment of others, an addict is a star in his own drama and most others are just bit players. Typical, manulative behaviour.
It's an old delimma, seperating the creation from the creator. Some make peace with it, others can't reconcile it. To me, the art exists seperate and I enjoy it as such. YMMV.
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@Kehaulani said in Chet on Commitee?:
@administrator said in Chet on Commitee?:
I can only handle Chet once in a while. His music depresses me.
That criteria sure eliminates a lot of art.
Regarding his treatment of others, an addict is a star in his own drama and most others are just bit players. Typical, manulative behaviour.
It's an old delimma, seperating the creation from the creator. Some make peace with it, others can't reconcile it. To me, the art exists seperate and I enjoy it as such. YMMV.
Yes, yes it does. But, remember, I am not saying the art is bad, only that I have to be prepared to enjoy it.
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@administrator said in Chet on Commitee?:
@Kehaulani said in Chet on Commitee?:
@administrator said in Chet on Commitee?:
I can only handle Chet once in a while. His music depresses me.
That criteria sure eliminates a lot of art.
Regarding his treatment of others, an addict is a star in his own drama and most others are just bit players. Typical, manulative behaviour.
It's an old delimma, seperating the creation from the creator. Some make peace with it, others can't reconcile it. To me, the art exists seperate and I enjoy it as such. YMMV.
Yes, yes it does. But, remember, I am not saying the art is bad, only that I have to be prepared to enjoy it.
You know, when it goes to that argument, I also feel strongly about religious music. Bach wrote some wonderful sacred music, so did Palestrina and many others. Both men were (at least, claimed to be) devout Christians, of different sects of course, but still Christians. There is something to sacred music when performed by believers.
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Check out Hildegard of Bingham.
I go with Stravinsky though, who denied emotionalism in music, yet he wrote some very emotionally moving music. I wonder how often the Placebo Effect is not unconsciously used. We hear what we want to hear.
I was just talking to a visual artist the other day, who described music in tangible, visual terms where I did not, leaning to the more abstract interpretation. "Different strokes" and all that.
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@Kehaulani Don't try Hildegard Bingham, who was a 19th century politician, but Hildegard von BINGEN.
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LOL! You mean she's not from New York?
(I used to drive by hBingen every week.)
