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    • dupac
      dupac last edited by

      Not sure it's the good place for this thread? Anyway let's go:
      I know a lot of people on this board also play alto/tenor horn, euphonium, and so on...
      So do I (Yamaha alto):

      moi (alto).JPG

      Mikel Dupac / Lawler C7-3R-1A
      Carol Brass flugelhorn and pockets
      Olds Super / Conn New Wonder cornet
      Music is the healing force of the Universe

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      • J. Jericho
        J. Jericho Global Moderator last edited by

        When I bought my Olds Studio trombone, I had expected there to be some form of counterweight, like a weighted tuning slide brace. No such luck. The tuning slide appears to have been replaced, so maybe the original had this feature. I found an Ambassador counterweight, which I installed, and it does an adequate job.

        '62 Olds Studio Trumpet
        '67 Olds Special Trumpet
        2013 Dillon Pocket Trumpet
        '83 Yamaha YFH-731 Flugelhorn
        1919 York Perfec-Tone Cornet
        '50 Olds Studio Trombone
        Shofar

        "If it was just up to me, I'd only have trumpet players on my show." - Jackie Gleason

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        • Shifty
          Shifty @dupac last edited by

          @dupac said in Why not another thread about bigger horns ?:

          I know a lot of people on this board also play alto/tenor horn, euphonium, and so on...
          So do I (Yamaha alto):

          Guilty as charged. Wessex BR140 Baritone. I'm even worse on it than on the small horns, but it's a lot of fun.

          BR140_Baritone.jpg

          Getzen Eterna 700, Eterna 800
          Conn Connstellation 28A, Victor 80A, Connqueror (1903)
          ACB Doubler Flugelhorn

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          • Richard III
            Richard III last edited by

            I spend most of my time playing french horn. Or as we like to call it, horn. Does that qualify as a bigger horn?

            As for why there isn't another thread, possibly because players of other horns don't spend all their time talking about it online?

            Richard III

            1977 Olds Ambassador Cornet

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            • J. Jericho
              J. Jericho Global Moderator @Richard III last edited by

              @Richard-III said in Why not another thread about bigger horns ?:

              I spend most of my time playing french horn. Or as we like to call it, horn. Does that qualify as a bigger horn?

              As for why there isn't another thread, possibly because players of other horns don't spend all their time talking about it online?

              Check out http://www.themouthpiece.com/forum/ , https://www.trombonechat.com/index.php , and https://forum.saxontheweb.net/forum.php .

              '62 Olds Studio Trumpet
              '67 Olds Special Trumpet
              2013 Dillon Pocket Trumpet
              '83 Yamaha YFH-731 Flugelhorn
              1919 York Perfec-Tone Cornet
              '50 Olds Studio Trombone
              Shofar

              "If it was just up to me, I'd only have trumpet players on my show." - Jackie Gleason

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              • ?
                A Former User last edited by

                Hello,

                my low horns:

                1- a Jupiter Bb valve tenor trombone, played with a Bach 22C mouthpiece:Ju1.jpg

                JU2.jpg

                2- a Dimavery F alto valve trombone played with a Schilke 40B mouthpiece:

                Dim1.jpg

                Dim2.jpg

                and both:
                Dim.jpg

                Two cheap horns that play well enough for an occasional doubler like me.

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                • Richard III
                  Richard III last edited by

                  This is what I play in my small jazz group. Every time I bring it out, people come up and ask what it is. No one has ever guessed right.

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                  Richard III

                  1977 Olds Ambassador Cornet

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                  • Tobylou8
                    Tobylou8 last edited by

                    Reminds me of my Blessing marching trombone, just a little bit bigger!

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                    • King_Conng
                      King_Conng @Richard III last edited by

                      @Richard-III Is that a king 1122 marching french horn? I played on a conn 134e during marching season when not on cornet. I always had trouble with the lyre holder's placement, do you have that problem?

                      Bach Strad 181ML Cornet (1977)
                      Blessing Super Artist (1953)
                      Reynolds ERA Modified C Trumpet (1965)
                      Schilke 14B4A (one-piece custom)
                      Arwin 6L (Reinhardt Pivot System)
                      Fanfare Caseworks Quad Case
                      And many more...

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                      • Richard III
                        Richard III @King_Conng last edited by

                        @King_Conng said in Why not another thread about bigger horns ?:

                        @Richard-III Is that a king 1122 marching french horn? I played on a conn 134e during marching season when not on cornet. I always had trouble with the lyre holder's placement, do you have that problem?

                        Well, you named the horn. Yes it is. I never marched with it so have never tried it with a lyre. In my day, back in the early 70's, our mellophones were two valve things in G. If I remember correctly. And we had everything memorized. Drum and Bugle Corps. The corps, now defunct was the Knight Raiders.

                        Richard III

                        1977 Olds Ambassador Cornet

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                        • Pinstriper
                          Pinstriper @Richard III last edited by

                          @Richard-III said in Why not another thread about bigger horns ?:

                          @King_Conng said in Why not another thread about bigger horns ?:

                          @Richard-III Is that a king 1122 marching french horn? I played on a conn 134e during marching season when not on cornet. I always had trouble with the lyre holder's placement, do you have that problem?

                          Well, you named the horn. Yes it is. I never marched with it so have never tried it with a lyre. In my day, back in the early 70's, our mellophones were two valve things in G. If I remember correctly. And we had everything memorized. Drum and Bugle Corps. The corps, now defunct was the Knight Raiders.

                          You missed the valve-rotor days. Some day imma buy me a v-r mello, just because. Most fun horn to play, ever.

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                          • King_Conng
                            King_Conng @Richard III last edited by

                            @Richard-III From what remember, I think my set screw on the lyre holder itself was the problem, we also had our music memorized so we didn't use lyres. Because of the placement of the holder on the leadpipe, combining that jutting out and a knurled screw further jutting out equaled havoc to my palm. I would love to get a kanstul g bugle or maybe a DEG, I was just born too late to play on them. I did play when the Conn 134e was new though, in 1991 they replaced the older circular marching french horns in my high school, I remember that new case smell.

                            Bach Strad 181ML Cornet (1977)
                            Blessing Super Artist (1953)
                            Reynolds ERA Modified C Trumpet (1965)
                            Schilke 14B4A (one-piece custom)
                            Arwin 6L (Reinhardt Pivot System)
                            Fanfare Caseworks Quad Case
                            And many more...

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                            • ericmonroes
                              ericmonroes @King_Conng last edited by ericmonroes

                              Anybody can recommend the most expensive trumpet in the world? I researched some blogs and found only this review https://webproductradar.com/most-expensive-trumpet-in-the-world

                              Just enjoy my life, people, and you.

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                              • Kehaulani
                                Kehaulani Credentialed Professional @ericmonroes last edited by Kehaulani

                                @ericmonroes said in Why not another thread about bigger horns ?:
                                Anybody can recommend the most expensive trumpet in the world?
                                Welcome Eric. Maybe try another thread, LOL?

                                Presently own a Yamaha valve bone that I got mainly because of chop problem on trumpet.
                                Got hooked by Raul de Souza

                                Played slide trombone in a North Texas Lab Band. Horn borrowed from Music Department, name unknown.

                                Played French Horn in the service for two years, as well as Tokyo youth Philharmonic, etc. Own a Hans Hoyer.
                                Problem on left hand now because of strokes. Actually my brass instrument of choice.
                                Biggest influence, Herman Bauman

                                Played Alto Horn in a German city band. Markneunkirchen (East Germany at the time) made horn but I don't remember maker.

                                Benge 3X
                                Martin Committee
                                Getzen Capri Cornet
                                Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

                                "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
                                Charlie Parker

                                "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
                                Chet Baker

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                                • J. Jericho
                                  J. Jericho Global Moderator last edited by J. Jericho

                                  No discussion about bigger horns would be complete without this:

                                  or this:
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                                  dazedbylife,blogspot.com

                                  '62 Olds Studio Trumpet
                                  '67 Olds Special Trumpet
                                  2013 Dillon Pocket Trumpet
                                  '83 Yamaha YFH-731 Flugelhorn
                                  1919 York Perfec-Tone Cornet
                                  '50 Olds Studio Trombone
                                  Shofar

                                  "If it was just up to me, I'd only have trumpet players on my show." - Jackie Gleason

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                                  • flugelgirl
                                    flugelgirl Qualified Repair Techs Veterans & Military Musicians last edited by

                                    I’ve had to get proficient enough to play test what I work on - my best (outside the trumpet/cornet/flugel family, of course!) is French horn, worst is trombone. I can’t buzz loose enough for bass bone or tuba at all! Trombones are fairly simple creatures and can be diagnosed without a play test, but if I need one I hand it to my boss since he is a trombonist. He can also handle a bit of tuba, but if it’s a higher end tuba I have friends I can call. Here’s the latest to leave my bench - a Conn bass trumpet. I’ve had 7 or 8 bass trumpets cross my bench in the last two years, and they’re harder for me to play than euph. They’re much harder to center for me!
                                    62DD7319-2017-4835-BD2A-3EC444E406D8.jpeg

                                    Daily players: Adams A1, A4LT, F2 flugel , CN1 cornet.
                                    Schagerl Raweni
                                    Puje 3am(named for me), Benge pocket
                                    Schilke P5-4, C5L
                                    Yamaha 761 Eb/D
                                    Lots of vintage toys

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                                    • Newell Post
                                      Newell Post @ericmonroes last edited by

                                      @ericmonroes The most expensive? Probably Monette, as a brand; unless you get into completely custom-built, totally from-scratch one-off things made by elves in the Black Forest. (Or extremely rare antiques owned by super-famous players.)

                                      Bb: Bach 180S37G (05), Mercedes (80)
                                      Vintage: Committee (54), Recording (59), Super (49), Getzen Severinsen (66)
                                      C: Kanstul 1510, Constellation
                                      D/Eb: Getzen Eterna
                                      Cornet: Schilke XA1, Yamaha Neo Eb
                                      Flugel: Kanstul 1525, Yamaha 625
                                      Conch shell in F

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                                      • GeorgeB
                                        GeorgeB last edited by

                                        I don't play anything shown so far in this thread, but it is sure interesting to look at the instruments and read about them.
                                        I tried trombone for awhile in my teens, but using the larger mp affected my trumpet embouchure so I sold the trombone.

                                        1960s King Super 20 Silversonic, 1940 Olds Recording, 1942 Buescher True Tone 400 ,1999 Conn Vintage One Bb trumpet, A 1952 Selmer Paris, A 2020 Getzen 400 and a Manchester Brass ACB custom pro Bb trumpet, a 1962 Conn Victor 5A Cornet.

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                                        • Dr GO
                                          Dr GO @ericmonroes last edited by Dr GO

                                          @ericmonroes said in Why not another thread about bigger horns ?:

                                          Anybody can recommend the most expensive trumpet in the world? I researched some blogs and found only this review https://webproductradar.com/most-expensive-trumpet-in-the-world

                                          Checked out this site. I do no agree. Monette and Harrelson trumpets can be several times more expensive. My Harrelson SWE Summit, brushed silver with 14K gold tuning slides now starts around $14,000 but I have seen it on sale for $12,800.

                                          Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                                          Harrelson Summit 2017
                                          Kanstul 1526 2012
                                          Getzen Power Bore 1961
                                          Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                                          Martin Committee 1946
                                          Olds Super Recording 1940
                                          Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                                          Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                                          Olds Ambassador 1965

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                                          • Richard III
                                            Richard III last edited by

                                            I just got a Blessing marching baritone. Much less expensive than the flugabone because it doesn't say flugeabone. Same configuration. Nice sound that can be baritone like or trombone like. Sort of like a flugelhorn with more smoke and depth.

                                            And one of the reasons there isn't more interest in this thread is that most people aren't interested in things other than trumpets on these sites.

                                            Richard III

                                            1977 Olds Ambassador Cornet

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