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    • Tobylou8
      Tobylou8 @SchilkeB6 last edited by

      @SchilkeB6 said in RIP Trumpet "Master":

      @adc
      No Rowuk was NOT the owner!

      SchilkeB6, the original name of Solar Bell, back to it!

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      • Shifty
        Shifty @Newell Post last edited by

        @Newell-Post said in RIP Trumpet "Master":

        ...flugelgirl too. Need more ladies. Too much testosterone on trumpet sites sometimes....

        Flugelgirl has joined us. Welcome!! Please join the Qualified Repair Techs group as well. 👍 👍

        Getzen Eterna 700, Eterna 800
        Conn Connstellation 28A, Victor 80A, Connqueror (1903)
        ACB Doubler Flugelhorn

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        • Newell Post
          Newell Post @Shifty last edited by

          @Shifty Hey, flugelgirl. Welcome aboard.

          Bb: Bach 180S37G (05), Mercedes (80)
          Vintage: Committee (54), Recording (59), Super (49), Getzen Severinsen (66)
          C: Kanstul 1510, Constellation
          D/Eb: Getzen Eterna
          Cornet: Schilke XA1, Yamaha Neo Eb
          Flugel: Kanstul 1525, Yamaha 625
          Conch shell in F

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          • tjveloce
            tjveloce last edited by

            Well I'm sad to see it gone...as others have pointed out, there was a lot of great information and personality to that forum. I owned a social networking domain and site once and we got Distributed Denial Of Service attacks numerous times, which would then cause the hosting service to take us offline. I hope that didn't happen to TM.

            In any event, it's nice to see some familiar names here. I was "chiefgearhead" on TM.

            -tj in the Cruz Mtns

            Lotus Solo Max

            82 Benge MLP
            74 Conn Director
            71 Bach 37
            56 Martin Committee Deluxe (large bore)
            45 Blessing Artist
            84 DEG 2v G bugle (SCV Alumni Corps ax)
            Adams F2 Flugelhorn
            Courtois 154 Flugelhorn

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            • Vulgano Brother
              Vulgano Brother last edited by

              I lobbied for TM to send its Moderators to Hawaii for a week or two. No response then, nor now.

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              • Dr GO
                Dr GO last edited by

                If anyone wants to get to some of the classic TM Posts for there archives of amazing advice, use this link:
                https://web.archive.org/web/20190119162733/http://www.trumpetmaster.com/

                Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                Harrelson Summit 2017
                Kanstul 1526 2012
                Getzen Power Bore 1961
                Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                Martin Committee 1946
                Olds Super Recording 1940
                Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                Olds Ambassador 1965

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                  moshe @Kehaulani last edited by moshe

                  With Trumpet Master gone.
                  I worried about what would happen to Rowuk.

                  What will he do to replace TM in his life?

                  Then I realized that Rowuk can still kick puppies and tear the wings off of flies.
                  So he can still stay busy.

                  :^)

                  PS -
                  For those who don't remember,
                  10 years ago Wilmer Wise threatened me with physical violence because I dared to defend famous mouthpiece maker Vincent Bach that Wilmer Wise said was a racist.,
                  so Rowuk banned ME !!!!!!!!
                  Not that I still hold a grudge about the matter.... :^)

                  moshe

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                  • Vulgano Brother
                    Vulgano Brother @moshe last edited by

                    @moshe
                    Seems like not a nice thing so say.

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                    • Dr GO
                      Dr GO last edited by

                      Rowuk is doing very well. He has a full life as a Professional Musician, the loss of TM is so minor in regard to his very rich career in music and his other professional life. For Rowuk, I believe TM was his way of volunteering his "love" to the trumpet world. He did not have to do this, but he did as a "tough love" parent. I learned so much from his "tough love" as he was firm with me at times, but I always respected our disagreements, just as I know he had listened to my rare but occasional contradictions of opinion. I respect him so much for this, and even though I still "see" him in other venues, I do miss his sharp wit and highly professional advice. I know he has been scanning TrumpetBoards, and has hinted on one day entering. I trust his excellent wisdom as to the timing if or when he would join this forum.

                      Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                      Harrelson Summit 2017
                      Kanstul 1526 2012
                      Getzen Power Bore 1961
                      Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                      Martin Committee 1946
                      Olds Super Recording 1940
                      Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                      Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                      Olds Ambassador 1965

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                      • Dr GO
                        Dr GO @moshe last edited by Dr GO

                        @moshe said in RIP Trumpet "Master":

                        10 years ago Wilmer Wise threatened me with physical violence because I dared to defend famous mouthpiece maker Vincent Bach that Wilmer Wise said was a racist.,
                        moshe

                        Moshe, you are not alone.

                        To me, Wilmer Wise was also very unkind, unprofessional and he had anger for me long after I shared on TM my knowledge of the ethics of a jazz great as to performance characteristics in the last years of the particular performer's life. Wilmer unceremoniously blasted me on my revelation, even though I knew the individual that produced the audio and video evidence of this jazz great that was vital in support of this student's thesis that was subsequently awarded with a PhD by the Department of Music at The Ohio State University. Wilmer marked me with anger thereafter, to contest anything I would post on his Thread, as a result of my knowing and Wilmer not wanting to accept this truth.

                        My choice was to no longer post on his Threads. Would I have been banned had I not stopped posting? Possibly as he was highly honored on TM. What I do know is I still held respect for Wilmer Wise, for the person he was and for the influence he made to others more important than me, and for the inspiration and life he lead. I even PM'd Wilmer after this event with my interest to assist him to help fund and hopefully change an event that was severely impacting on his life that I found out about after reading an article published in the American Federation of Musician's Trade Journal. He chose not to respond, but my concern and heart still went out to him. I did let him know this, but again no response.

                        So I am glad you chose to work on not holding a grudge about the matter. Holding grudges only brings us to a darker space, and the more grudges we hold, the darker life gets for us. I am sorry Wilmer held a grudge against you and me, but I hope with all my heart, Wilmer is now in a much better place.

                        Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                        Harrelson Summit 2017
                        Kanstul 1526 2012
                        Getzen Power Bore 1961
                        Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                        Martin Committee 1946
                        Olds Super Recording 1940
                        Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                        Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                        Olds Ambassador 1965

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                        • administrator
                          administrator Global Moderator last edited by

                          I'm curious if Robin (Rowuk) is aware of this site's existence.

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                          • Dr GO
                            Dr GO @administrator last edited by

                            @administrator said in RIP Trumpet "Master":

                            I'm curious if Robin (Rowuk) is aware of this site's existence.

                            Yes. I know for a fact he does, and he on occasion circulates onto this site to observe the discussion.

                            Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                            Harrelson Summit 2017
                            Kanstul 1526 2012
                            Getzen Power Bore 1961
                            Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                            Martin Committee 1946
                            Olds Super Recording 1940
                            Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                            Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                            Olds Ambassador 1965

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                            • administrator
                              administrator Global Moderator @Dr GO last edited by

                              @Dr-GO said in RIP Trumpet "Master":

                              @moshe said in RIP Trumpet "Master":

                              10 years ago Wilmer Wise threatened me with physical violence because I dared to defend famous mouthpiece maker Vincent Bach that Wilmer Wise said was a racist.,
                              moshe

                              Moshe, you are not alone.

                              To me, Wilmer Wise was also very unkind, unprofessional and he had anger for me long after I shared on TM my knowledge of the ethics of a jazz great as to performance characteristics in the last years of the particular performer's life. Wilmer unceremoniously blasted me on my revelation, even though I knew the individual that produced the audio and video evidence of this jazz great that was vital in support of this student's thesis that was subsequently awarded with a PhD by the Department of Music at The Ohio State University. Wilmer marked me with anger thereafter, to contest anything I would post on his Thread, as a result of my knowing and Wilmer not wanting to accept this truth.

                              My choice was to no longer post on his Threads. Would I have been banned had I not stopped posting? Possibly as he was highly honored on TM. What I do know is I still held respect for Wilmer Wise, for the person he was and for the influence he made to others more important than me, and for the inspiration and life he lead. I even PM'd Wilmer after this event with my interest to assist him to help fund and hopefully change an event that was severely impacting on his life that I found out about after reading an article published in the American Federation of Musician's Trade Journal. He chose not to respond, but my concern and heart still went out to him. I did let him know this, but again no response.

                              So I am glad you chose to work on not holding a grudge about the matter. Holding grudges only brings us to a darker space, and the more grudges we hold, the darker life gets for us. I am sorry Wilmer held a grudge against you and me, but I hope with all my heart, Wilmer is now in a much better place.

                              It turns out we are all people and have opinions on many subjects...nevertheless, we can respect and love people without agreeing with their views or tactics.

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                              • GeorgeB
                                GeorgeB last edited by

                                I have learned a lot just reading some of Robin's replies and suggestions to those who sought advice, myself included. He may have sounded pompus to some, but many knowledgeable people come across that way, though they certainly don't mean to. There were times in some of Robin's posts that he actually came across as being quite humble.

                                I'D LOVE TO SEE ROWUK COME HERE !!!!

                                1960s King Super 20 Silversonic, 1940 Olds Recording, 1942 Buescher True Tone 400 ,1999 Conn Vintage One Bb trumpet, A 1952 Selmer Paris, A 2020 Getzen 400 and a Manchester Brass ACB custom pro Bb trumpet, a 1962 Conn Victor 5A Cornet.

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                                • JorgePD
                                  JorgePD @Dr GO last edited by

                                  @Dr-GO
                                  I learned a lot from Rowuk as well. His "tough love" approach was very similar to the manager I learned the most from early in my business career. I hope he decides to join the forum.

                                  1947 Buescher 400 Model 225
                                  1957 Olds Ambassador

                                  Trumpet practice drives me crazy, but playing keeps me sane.

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                                  • Pinstriper
                                    Pinstriper @GeorgeB last edited by

                                    @GeorgeB said in RIP Trumpet "Master":

                                    I have learned a lot just reading some of Robin's replies and suggestions to those who sought advice, myself included. He may have sounded pompus to some, but many knowledgeable people come across that way, though they certainly don't mean to. There were times in some of Robin's posts that he actually came across as being quite humble.

                                    I'D LOVE TO SEE ROWUK COME HERE !!!!

                                    Rowuk's posts were amazingly educational, to the extent I could understand and apply. He may have rubbed some people the wrong way with his direct language, but I always saw it as just coming straight to the point and not pussyfooting around.

                                    But then, some people think I can be condescending from time to time. (that means they think I talk down to people)

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                                    • Kehaulani
                                      Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

                                      . . . some people think I can be condescending . .
                                      . (that means they think I talk down to people)

                                      😁

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                                      Martin Committee
                                      Getzen Capri Cornet
                                      Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

                                      "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
                                      Charlie Parker

                                      "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
                                      Chet Baker

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                                      • barliman2001
                                        barliman2001 Global Moderator @Newell Post last edited by

                                        @Newell-Post I've got his e-mail and will send him a note. Haven't heard from him for some time, though, and he was living in a particularly lively corner of Africa...

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                                        Courtois D
                                        Olds Recording
                                        Buescher Aristocrat
                                        Gaudet C
                                        Selmer G
                                        Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
                                        Besson International Bb cornet
                                        Courtois Bb cornet
                                        B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
                                        B&H Sovereign trombone
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                                        • Newell Post
                                          Newell Post @barliman2001 last edited by

                                          @barliman2001 Thanks, Barliman. It was that "lively corner of Africa" perspective I particularly enjoyed.

                                          Bb: Bach 180S37G (05), Mercedes (80)
                                          Vintage: Committee (54), Recording (59), Super (49), Getzen Severinsen (66)
                                          C: Kanstul 1510, Constellation
                                          D/Eb: Getzen Eterna
                                          Cornet: Schilke XA1, Yamaha Neo Eb
                                          Flugel: Kanstul 1525, Yamaha 625
                                          Conch shell in F

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                                          • M
                                            moshe @moshe last edited by moshe

                                            @moshe said in RIP Trumpet "Master":

                                            With Trumpet Master gone.
                                            I worried about what would happen to Rowuk.

                                            What will he do to replace TM in his life?

                                            Then I realized that Rowuk can still kick puppies and tear the wings off of flies.
                                            So he can still stay busy.

                                            :^)

                                            PS -
                                            For those who don't remember,
                                            10 years ago Wilmer Wise threatened me with physical violence because I dared to defend famous mouthpiece maker Vincent Bach that Wilmer Wise said was a racist.,
                                            so Rowuk banned ME !!!!!!!!
                                            Not that I still hold a grudge about the matter.... :^)

                                            moshe

                                            To clarify the matter which might seem vague above:

                                            A long time ago Vincent Bach published a mouthpiece brochure which included recommendations for black musicians.

                                            Wilmer Wise posted that was proof that Vincent Bach was a racist.

                                            I said that Wilmer should not make such a condemning accusation against someone who was not around to defend himself.

                                            Wilmer then posted that my defending a racist was proof that I am a racist.
                                            Wilmer said that he wanted to do to me what he once did to a racist in Baltimore, in other words, beat me to a pulp.

                                            I threw a fit and protested to the moderators that Wilmer's posts should not be tolerated because they violated specific TM posting rules.

                                            Rowuk then deleted almost all of the posts that were exchanged about the matter and Rowuk banned me from TM for my "bad behavior".
                                            But Rowuk allowed Wilmer Wise to remain in TM without even requiring that he apologize.

                                            But that was 10 years ago, so I barely remember the matter ☺

                                            moshe

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