@ROWUK
Well structured comment and correct as far as it goes but you entirely miss my point.
We are not talking about my publishing recordings and taking responsibility for those recordings which I publicise at the time.
We are talking about passers by making recordings of practice sessions they happen to hear in the distance when I am working on the problems I have in my playing.
I liken this to those recordings of Chet Baker who was practicing in his prison cell and were made by unscrupulous music publishers who sat outside the prison wall with recording equipment.
Chet had no knowledge of it he made no money from them and as far as Chet was concerned he was just working on his technique
Chet had no idea they were there, he was practicing what he was working on. We dont practice what we are good at and sound great at we practice the things we are weak at if we are diligent. Then at length we improve and eventually sound good at those areas.
Chet had no control over what was recorded as I have no control over passers by recording my practice sessions and then publishing those recordings without my knowledge or permission.
They dont care if I sound awful, its practice for me, all they care about is their facebook presence. In fact I would go further the worst I sound the happier they are to publish because it sounds comical to them and their followers.
It is pretty disgusting when you think about it.
In some rare cases I was asked if they can record me and I told them no you may not and they tell me they are not recording, but they record me anyway. This shows the truth of what they do. They are immoral and liars. They simply want to use people.
Would you ROWUK be happy as a teacher for a passer by to record your personal practice sessions where you are working on a weak area in your playing and you fail repeatedly at a difficult phrase you are trying to master.
And then your failures in your practice sessions are published widely on the internet as ROWUK playing his trumpet. This would reflect very badly on your reputation as a teacher, and suggest that ROWUK is incompetent to possible future students.
If your failures which we all have and work on are published widely on the internet you get a reputation as a failure and your students will then evaporate because students want to study with a teacher who can play well.
My practice sessions and failures are published and I am judged on those.
I do not publish any of my own performances.
Sure I have appeared on stage, with bands, and before politicians, and in movies.
My performances I have always been told are great, but my practice sessions and my failures during practices are published without my knowledge. They are where the warts are.
Yesterday I practiced a difficult piece faster and faster pushing it way up above 220 beats per minute practicing until I failed and had great fun doing it.
But people record this kind of stuff and then edit out the good playing at 220 beats and below and publish the 300 plus beats failure because it makes them laugh and I appear again on the internet as a failure with a horn.
And you cannot argue that these recordings stay on the one facebook page I have seen the recordings being passed around freely.
I stand by what I said, I am recorded during practice sessions and I have no knowledge and no control over what they do with those recordings. They dont know that I was practicing something I am bad at and they dont care, they do it for likes on their page.
Would you be content for Chets failures to be published as Chet Baker playing. Dizzy said some days the horn wins, so he clearly would not have wanted a cd of Dizzys failure days to be published, Dizzy wanted Dizzys successes to be published.
ROWUKS failures are not to be celebrated and published for all to see, ROWUKS successes are to be celebrated and rightly you are a talent as a teacher and a player.
I sound great in Live performances because I work hard on my poor areas and make them great, but those great performances do not appear on the internet.
My practice sessions and failures in those sessions and my earliest practices where I sounded really bad are the recordings that people see of me.
We all sound bad when we practice the things we are bad at but why is it ok for the general public to publish all our failures that we suffer on the road to becoming great.
Look at it another way.
I am famous I have been told many times I am the best trumpet player in the North of the country I live in. That is of course complete nonsense I know it is nonsense and I know I am pretty low down in the skills area as a player.
Why do people believe I am the best trumpet player they have ever heard. I have been called Maestro many times.
They believe I am great because of one thing alone. I only show the things I am great at. Live audiences never see my failures I present greatness because I refuse to show anything other than greatness.
That is how you do it when you are in control of what people see. You protect your reputation and grow it if you can.
What I am saying is everyone carries a mobile phone, around 50% of people with phones record me and probably most of the members in here are recorded without their knowledge or control, and they do it underhandedly and in secret and they do it while we practice if they can hear us.
They then publish those very poor recordings of our practicing because these instruments carry a long way.
I have been recorded maybe a thousand times and published widely without my knowledge.
There are days where I discover a dozen recordings of me practicing. I have people in Australia USA Canada Denmark Germany Russia England France and a dozen other countries who have made recordings of me without permission.
Yesterday 3 people recorded me that I know about and I know there will be several that I dont know about.
There is no control over this, we musicians are not in control of our public face as long as the intenet exists people have phones facebook accounts and thousands of friends that they publish their life to.
Facebook accounts have a thirst for new material and we musicians are one of the sources.
There are 7 billion people on the planet, I might be on a million facebook pages by now, and you may be too without having any knowledge that this is happening,
The difference between us is I know it I am aware of it happening. We are recorded everywhere now and we have no idea it is happening until we run up against it.
How can we avoid this.
Should we give up all practicing, should we practice in a soundproof room so that we can make sure that only performances we are in control of make it onto the internet.
This is the issue and the reason for this post. It is a huge issue for all musicians and it is growing.
It is not that I have published unwisely, I have published nothing, it is that people are making recordings of my daily life my practicing my failures in practice and then publishing what they have recorded.
I am not a student asking for advice making poor recordings and publishing them and then bleating about how poor they are.
I am human I am bad at some things good at some things and great at some things. I present to audiences things I am great at I practice on the bad things to turn them into good things and eventually into great things.
But
People insist on making recordings of all that I do and publishing everything they hear, and that means publishing my faults clams and split notes.
We have no control over any of this and it is wrong, but we must live with it.
And if you do not see this happening then you may need a rethink.
Apologies for sounding very strong on this but I see it as the single most destructive thing for music today.
Do Orchestras or major bands allow smartphone recordings of performances practice sessions, do teachers allow the general public to record their students during a lesson.
Publishing everything in life means exactly that. And we suffer the consequences.