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@administrator said in No real gains on anything more than 40-45 minutes of practice.:

No pain no gain does not apply to trumpet playing!

ALSO AGREED:
However, there is another saying, and that relates to what does it mean to "work through the pain"? THAT depends on the situation and the task at hand (as many of the physical therapists out there will know).

When it comes to lip pain from excessive playing, here is what you do:

1. STOP playing
2. Begin lip massage in the area of pain for a couple minutes or so. This increases blood flow to the area to help move out the "bad toxins", and help prevent further damage.
3. Come back to re-do the massage every 5 minutes until the pain has subsided.

IF you do this early enough into the pain process AND the pain resolves (typically 10-15 minutes), you can try to play once again, but if that pain returns, you are done for the day... OK?

@administrator said in No real gains on anything more than 40-45 minutes of practice.:

...it's hard to say what is "too much" pressure and what is not. However, if you feel any pain at all, you are probably hurting yourself....

AGREED:
I always tell my patients, pain is your friend. Listen to pain. It is mother nature's way of letting you know you are overdoing what your body was designed to do. If you ignore pain, you are at a higher risk of doing damage.

@N1684T said in No real gains on anything more than 40-45 minutes of practice.:

But whats a good test of what IS too much pressure?
Endurance. How long are you lasting before you loose fine control of attacking your notes or starting to diminish your tonal quality?

@N1684T said in No real gains on anything more than 40-45 minutes of practice.:

I read one about palming the trumpet, and another about turning the trumpet all the way around while playing a constant note.
Don't do this. This is a high risk procedure to damaging lip muscle.

@N1684T said in No real gains on anything more than 40-45 minutes of practice.:

I have been guilty of using WAY too much pressure when tired... whats a good test?
Your answer is in your question. You feel "tired". This is a sign that is before pain sets it. Being tired is a sing to either cut back considerably or quit for the day (or at least for several hours)

@N1684T said in No real gains on anything more than 40-45 minutes of practice.:

...and actually leaving an impression on the lips...

Leaving an impression on you lips (acutely-which is results in plethora (reddened)) is and advanced sign of muscle blood flow into the area to begin "healing" a stress environment. Now a chronic ring that is silver is a sign of healthy adaptation of the soft tissue and collagen that helps protect your lips.

Collagen is the most available protein in your muscles and ligaments. Collagen is a building block that: 1) promotes skin elasticity; 2) holds together your bones and muscles: 3) protects muscle for excessive strain; 4) provides structure to joints and tendons. Your body produces collagen on a regular basis and will particularly lay down fibers in more areas needing protection (such as that silvery ring around you lip).

@N1684T said in No real gains on anything more than 40-45 minutes of practice.:

I realize this sounds like a silly question, but if i need clarification, others might as well?
Not silly at all. I hope the above segments help clarify.

@N1684T said in No real gains on anything more than 40-45 minutes of practice.:

But whats a good test of what IS too much pressure?

Loss of control. Accuracy of hitting notes falters, tone begins to pinch.

@N1684T said in No real gains on anything more than 40-45 minutes of practice.:

I see this all the time, but a definition of too much pressure would be helpful?

Too much pressure in this context with the embouchure relates to actual physical pressure of the metal mouthpiece compressing lip muscle. This does two things:

1. Pinches off blood supply to many muscle unites causing lactic acid build up and chemical anaerobic induced fatigue;

2. Pins the lip muscle directly against the dentition which decreases it's ability to vibrate. The more vibrating that is in contact with the mouthpiece cup, the more effective the wave form created transmits to the air column within the mouthpiece and subsequently the wave that is transmitted down the leadpipe and into the horn.

@Three-Sevens said in No real gains on anything more than 40-45 minutes of practice.:

@Dr-GO
That's a NICE Jeep! Hard to be incognito in that great color!

Hope you take yours out topless often!

Mike

Mike, it's a beautiful day in May and here I am Topless:

@BigDub said in LONG TONES:

Nothing exceeds like excess.

Once again, this was Eugene Blee's exercises he developed to optimize his performance. He was the longest sitting principle trumpeter for the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra. Exceeding in excess this is not. Give it a try. It is not excessive at all.

It takes very little warm up time to get through this exercise series, and if performed entirely in series, truly guarantees preparing the embouchure for a days worthy performance.

A real loss for the trumpet community. My thoughts go out to his family in this loss.

I met him personally after a lesson with Claudio Roditi. Claudio took me to his studio at the conclusion of one of our lessons, after we discussed mouthpieces influences on sounding of the trumpet. Jerome hand lathed a custom mouthpiece for my Olds Recording on the spot. He first identified a cup that worked best for me, had me play my horn, then took it to his lathe to work on the back bore. He did this 5 times going back and forth between my horn and his lathe. He did not charge me a dime for his expertise or his time!

@mrhappy

You are so welcome. They have worked well for me for over 40 years. I will not start a rehearsal or performance without first doing these excesses.

@BigDub said in Kanstul:

@Dr-GO bully

No... Just hungry!

@Doc-Wannabe said in top trumpets:

@Kehaulani

It really looks like he did a review of all the trumpets available to him at the local music store.

I respect that he took a shot trying to become a trusted instrument review source but damaging credibility is not a good first step

Reading their site, they are experts in nothing. They review juicers, cars, clothing... They also claim they make their choices based on customer feedback, with less then 2 minute feedback review per customer AT BEST. They did not play these trumpets. Much less than being trumpet players, I doubt they are even musicians. They are a team of biased "researches: that couch their data into the best results for royalties they get from the companies from which they "contract".

And then look at the Team:

Daniel's grin says it all: These readers are SO gullible.
Linsay the Editor: Really Daniel, you think the readers will believe this? Ok I guess if you bribe me with another Hershey's Bar!
Melinda the Web Producer: Oh yeah, you're all giving me another blonde joke.... OK I'll show you.... I'll publish it

Then there's Eliza the Production Manager: Hey wait, she's hot!

AND Here is a clip from the sites "How we do it" Page:

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Clearly they are comparing apples to oranges

And then let's do the math: Here is the site's ANALysis summary (Rowuk's spelling):

So if you JUST interviewed the Consumers for the "7 hours" of research, you get:

7 hr x 60 min/h = 420 min; 420 min/152 consults = 2.7 min/consult.
Then there is that 1 expert. OK maybe they gave that person at least a minute... so that leaves 1.7 minutes for the others.

Conclusion: The ANALysis is as accurate as the time spent in going over the data

@Kehaulani said in top trumpets:

Top trumpets. What a douch bag.
https://reviews.thedailymeal.com/reviews/best-trumpets

More like a bias bag. Look at their disclaimer:

We may earn a commission if you purchase a product through our links.

Any one wants to bet Yamaha pays the largest commission and likely the higher volume. This analysis has a high risk rating due to the conflict of support bias.

@BigDub said in A little humour:

@Vulgano-Brother said in A little humour:

"Sing a scale," said my teacher, years ago.
I sang "do re mi fa sol la ti do."
"At least you got the words right," he said.

Well, it’s so, not sol. Sorry. Almost right.

It right if you are a jazz singer and your sing it as soul!

Shifty.

Thanks for your comment. Dayton is making a change and for the good. There is a real resurgence to try to get people downtown once again. There has been much rebuilding with many housing units, brown stone style, that are bringing many more residents into the downtown area. There is the 5 Rivers Metro Park, 5/3 Field (Home of the Dayton Dragons), the Shuster Center (home for our symphony and many national acts), and now the Levitt Pavilion that provides free concert venues (many national acts) to Dayton. This is the first year that Levitt is home to the Dayton Jazz Festival:

https://levitt.org/dayton

@BigDub said in Kanstul:

I don’t know, but usually I brought my lunch to school...

Then I would eat it!

Any members playing Jazz Festivals are encouraged to let us all know. If in the area, this may get our members to come out and support our TB family.

AND by coincidence, The Eddie Brookshire Quintet will be playing the Dayton Jazz Festival on Sunday, June 9th at the brand new Levitt Pavilion right in the heart of Dayton, across the street from the Dayton Convention Center and on the grounds of the Crowne Plaza. We start at 7:30 pm.

https://www.daytonlocal.com/festivals/dayton-jazz-festival.asp

Oh yes. Forgot to mention, I also "tricked" out my Ambassador. Here it is as re-created by me (with the help of Tom Green):