Posts made by Dale Proctor

@richard-iii said in Vintage Horn Eye Candy:

I just had to dig out my Conn 77A. Sorry no picture. It is a standard configuration for a cornet. The 76A, which replaced the 77A is quite a different design. The tuning slide, I'm guessing, is on the bell tubing? Anybody know of any other Conn cornet with that feature?

In that era, the 15A, 17A, 76A, 5A, and 9A all had a “reverse flow” design with a slide in that position, but I believe the 76A was the only one that used it as the main tuning slide. The others had a longer slide in the leadpipe for tuning. Here’s the 9A for comparison.

BTW, the 76A had a very similar wrap to the Olds Recording cornet.

@conndirectorfan

That’s similar to a Conn 76A Connquest, but the air flows through the valve section in the opposite direction.

@grune said in Vintage Bach Club:

@dale-proctor said in Vintage Bach Club:

@grune said in Vintage Bach Club:

vintage
noun
1: a season's yield of wine from a vineyard
2: the oldness of wines

each year is a vintage. how is this related to trumpets?

You left one out...

3 a : a period of origin or manufacture : a piano of 1845 vintage
__b : length of existence : AGE

so which year is a Bach vintage?

Well, that’s the question, isn’t it? Personally, I’d say around 50 years old, but that’s probably a bit older than some would say. My oldest one was made in 1976, so it’s not there yet.

@grune said in Vintage Bach Club:

vintage
noun
1: a season's yield of wine from a vineyard
2: the oldness of wines

each year is a vintage. how is this related to trumpets?

You left one out...

3 a : a period of origin or manufacture : a piano of 1845 vintage
__b : length of existence : AGE

To me, cornets, trumpets, and flugelhorns of multiple keys are all in the same subset of brass instruments that are played with similar diameter mouthpieces. Tubas, trombones, baritones, tenor horns, French horns, etc, aren’t.

Here’s another one, different cornet and tree...

Hope everyone has a merry Christmas in this crummy pandemic year. How about posting some cheery holiday photos of your favorite cornet, trumpet, and/or flugelhorn? Here’s mine.

@Dr-GO said in A little humour:

If you spell your name backward and put an umlaut over one of the vowels, that is your Ikea name.

I am ydanö. I am fairly certain that would be a soap dish.

I am rötcorp, but I have no idea what that would be...

@stumac said in Dry instrument vs Wet instrument:

This morning I played my1931 King Silver Tone trumpet for the first time in over 12months, the valves were free and smooth, I did not oil them (shame) and found as Dale the tone was dull and lifeless, after about 10 minutes of playing the tone was much improved and sounded more like me. I will try it again tomorrow after playing my usual horns.

I have not noticed this on any of my other horns that get played on a regular basis.

Regards,Stuart.

Thanks for the confirmation, Stuart.

@ROWUK said in Dry instrument vs Wet instrument:

Moisture! The speed of sound in moist air is different than in dry and in the microcosmos of the trumpet, that is a big deal. Intonation and targets change.
Granted, if one has minimal chops, other issues may mask the effect.
A „moist“ instrument is different than just running water through it first (although that does help some).

This is such a fundamental thing for me that I will not risk playing a gig on a dry trumpet (even although it is only dry for the first 10 minutes or so). When testing trumpets, the first 10 minutes do not count.

Thank you for the info and confirmation, sir!

@J-Jericho said in Dry instrument vs Wet instrument:

A good test would be to swab out the accumulated moisture from a horn you play on a daily basis, and try to detect a difference. Play. Swab. Play again.

I don’t think swabbing it would make it dry enough. It has to set up a while and really dry out.

Have any of you noticed that when you pick up a horn you haven’t played in months, it doesn’t seem to play as well as it should? Sort of unresponsive, maybe the tone is a little lacking, etc.? After you play it a bit, it seems to improve, and then if you keep playing another day or two, it seems back to “normal”? Does moisture have anything to do with it, or do you think it’s just a lack of recent familiarity with the horn (even though you’ve played it a lot in the past) that makes it seem sub par?

@OldSchoolEuph said in Books about Trumpets:

@Dale-Proctor said in Books about Trumpets:

Yes, I have a rotary valve cornet, and there are return springs. Not on the valves themselves, but springs are involved in returning the valve to the straight through position. I was just responding to the bad joke Dr. Go was making a few posts ago.

Allen valves. Every time I see one of these (given how remarkably well some of these antiques still play) it really makes me wonder about valve alignments being mostly placebo. . . .

Allen valves are cool, aren’t they? Very fast action from the small diameter rotor, too. Unfortunately, the valves have become pretty worn from all the playing I’ve done on it the past 25 years or so. The rotors appear to be made of bronze, and I don’t really want to alter the originality of the instrument by having a valve job done on it.

Yes, I have a rotary valve cornet, and there are return springs. Not on the valves themselves, but springs are involved in returning the valve to the straight through position. I was just responding to the bad joke Dr. Go was making a few posts ago.

@flugelgirl said in Books about Trumpets:

@Dale-Proctor said in Books about Trumpets:

@Dr-GO said in Books about Trumpets:

@IrishTrumpeter said in [Books about Trumpets](/post/13816

Guess that would exclude trumpets with rotary valves.

Rotary valve trumpets have springs, too - they just aren’t inside the valve case.

Some do, some are strung like French horn rotors, some have mechanical linkage without springs. Depends on age/ manufacturer

Don’t they all have a spring of some sort to return the valve?

@Dr-GO said in Books about Trumpets:

@IrishTrumpeter said in Books about Trumpets:

...I will look out for in it in the spring !

Guess that would exclude trumpets with rotary valves.

Rotary valve trumpets have springs, too - they just aren’t inside the valve case.

This is a very good one, and I think they can still be found.

I ditched the triangle...

According to the quiz, I’m melancholic. According to their definition, that’s pretty accurate.

1890 Besson cornet glamour shot.