Posts made by Dale Proctor

@rowuk said in Bach Symphonic Mouthpieces:

In my world, the 3c is NOT a symphonic mouthpiece, rather something well suited for commercial playing. It has for me a slightly uncomfortable inner rim sharpness. Good flexibility, tone with a fair amount of sizzle.
I played the 1 1/2C for 15 years. Comfortable rim, great articulation, creamy tone equally good with the Bb and C trumpet although mine with the C had the throat drilled out. I ended up switching to a Schilke 18 (15 years)and since 1996 to a Monette 2 series mouthpiece (B2D/C2D). These days, playing the 1.5C makes my tone a lot rougher and upper register flat.

True, the older Bach 3C mouthpieces I’ve owned were pretty shallow when compared to other Bach C cups. That’s part of the question - I wonder if the new Symphonic 3C is anything more than just the same old 3C cup and rim with a different throat and backbore. I have been using a Bach 1-1/2 C for symphonic-type playing for the last few years, and I really like it (other than it feels a bit stuffy) but I’m not too sure I’d like it with a larger throat and more open backbore if it significantly increases the effort required to play it. And yes, when I need more brightness for a piece, I still use a Curry 3C., which I find to have a better sound and easier playability than a Bach 3C.

Maybe I should just forget about it and play what I have...

@atrumpetdude

I had a Bach 3B for a while and while I really liked the sound, the 7 backbore wore me out. I like the 24 backbore, though. I’ve never really liked a 27 throat on my trumpet mouthpieces, but drilling or reaming them out isn’t a good solution because it tends to make the upper register go flat. That’s why I’m considering a “factory” piece with a 24/24 setup.

Trumpet capos are literally a figment of the imagination...lol.

The problem I had with progressive lenses was there is only a small sweet spot for things at arm’s length, and I had to look straight ahead through them to focus correctly. Three irritating features became quickly evident... No in-focus peripheral vision. No following the music on the pages with my eyes - I had to turn my head as I played. The trumpet or cornet bell was partially in my line of sight.

I had people suggest bifocals, but the single vision glasses work great and the conductor is just slightly out of focus, which doesn’t matter since I just watch him out of the corner of my eye while playing.

I play a large bore cornet with a Wick mouthpiece, so I have the air part covered...lol. Thanks for the advice.

@administrator said in Bach Symphonic Mouthpieces:

I have played both. Don't bother with the second option if you're not a pro orchestra player.

You may find a richer sound, but it will cost you more work. May I ask what it is you're trying to achieve?

I can play a stock 1-1/2C just fine, but I’ve read that playing the Symphonic version is quite a bit more demanding.

I’ve always liked a larger throat and more open backbore on cornet mouthpieces and wondered how that setup would work on trumpet. I normally play a Curry 3C. on trumpet, but was thinking I might like to try a 3C with the 24 backbore and larger throat for less resistance and a bit richer sound.

Have any of you played one of these? I’m considering either a 3C/24/24 or a 1-1/2C/24/24, but wonder what other players think of them (any size) and what characteristics they have compared to the standard models.

Yes, I measured the normal playing distance from my eyes to the music stand and had a pair of single vision prescription glasses made to focus correctly at that distance, with a decent +- distance tolerance. They work great, and I keep them in the case with whichever horn I’m using at the time. Like you, I had progressive lenses that were pretty useless for reading music.

Responses need to be larger, darker text so they stand out from quotes, signature lines, etc.

Yabba dabba doo...

@kehaulani said in thread test:

@dale-proctor - why? Compared with that lumbering, archaic format on TH, I think this is a breath of fresh air. Now to bring the substance of posts up to the same level.

Oh yeah, it’s MUCH better than that water wheel powered TH site, but this format just seems like things are spaced out too much.
That said, the reply text is too small and too light in relation to the quote you’re referring to. It should be the other way around.

If anyone cares, I’m not too fond of the new layout....lol

@richard-iii said in Vintage Horn Eye Candy:

I just had to dig out my Conn 77A. Sorry no picture. It is a standard configuration for a cornet. The 76A, which replaced the 77A is quite a different design. The tuning slide, I'm guessing, is on the bell tubing? Anybody know of any other Conn cornet with that feature?

In that era, the 15A, 17A, 76A, 5A, and 9A all had a “reverse flow” design with a slide in that position, but I believe the 76A was the only one that used it as the main tuning slide. The others had a longer slide in the leadpipe for tuning. Here’s the 9A for comparison.

BTW, the 76A had a very similar wrap to the Olds Recording cornet.

@conndirectorfan

That’s similar to a Conn 76A Connquest, but the air flows through the valve section in the opposite direction.

@grune said in Vintage Bach Club:

@dale-proctor said in Vintage Bach Club:

@grune said in Vintage Bach Club:

vintage
noun
1: a season's yield of wine from a vineyard
2: the oldness of wines

each year is a vintage. how is this related to trumpets?

You left one out...

3 a : a period of origin or manufacture : a piano of 1845 vintage
__b : length of existence : AGE

so which year is a Bach vintage?

Well, that’s the question, isn’t it? Personally, I’d say around 50 years old, but that’s probably a bit older than some would say. My oldest one was made in 1976, so it’s not there yet.

@grune said in Vintage Bach Club:

vintage
noun
1: a season's yield of wine from a vineyard
2: the oldness of wines

each year is a vintage. how is this related to trumpets?

You left one out...

3 a : a period of origin or manufacture : a piano of 1845 vintage
__b : length of existence : AGE

To me, cornets, trumpets, and flugelhorns of multiple keys are all in the same subset of brass instruments that are played with similar diameter mouthpieces. Tubas, trombones, baritones, tenor horns, French horns, etc, aren’t.

Here’s another one, different cornet and tree...

Hope everyone has a merry Christmas in this crummy pandemic year. How about posting some cheery holiday photos of your favorite cornet, trumpet, and/or flugelhorn? Here’s mine.

@Dr-GO said in A little humour:

If you spell your name backward and put an umlaut over one of the vowels, that is your Ikea name.

I am ydanö. I am fairly certain that would be a soap dish.

I am rötcorp, but I have no idea what that would be...