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    • Pinstriper
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      • J. Jericho
        J. Jericho Global Moderator last edited by

        Very informative and interesting. Bell covers seem to be a good step towards playing in groups again.

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        • ROWUK
          ROWUK Veterans & Military Musicians Western Europe Group Monette Club last edited by

          What an inspiring link. Things that brass players can do to protect those around us. I will be making and testing various materials. Details as this unfolds!

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            djeffers78 last edited by

            What a scam! I’ll go back to strings. I’m tired of all this BS propaganda

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            • Kehaulani
              Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

              Who would be the propogandist? This seems to me, to just be another step closer to learning more about the disease and how to handle it.

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              • ROWUK
                ROWUK Veterans & Military Musicians Western Europe Group Monette Club @djeffers78 last edited by ROWUK

                @djeffers78 you will have to be a bit more specific about what you do not understand. There is no debate about Covid being transmitted by contact of droplets and aerosols. There are enough professional studies performed where actual orchestral players and their instruments were tested. A lot of these things have made a careful opening of concert venues possible in Germany.

                If for no other reason than the constant reminder that a virus NEVER sleeps makes this bell cover interesting. The study presented in the link is compelling and similar to one conducted with the Bamberg Symphonic a couple of weeks ago.

                We should not forget that it is not Covid that causes lockdowns. It is the Covidiots that think that they are immune and just end up getting thousands infected. America is doing an especially poor job of containing because of the "perversion of individual rights". Fact is, if everyone simply practices good hygiene, distancing and wears a mask whenever possible, we could be well on our way to recovery - which has struck the music industry in a devastating way. Everyone has access to facts. The first wave, how various countries handled it - and which countries simply are failing and why.

                Selfish attitude is not "propaganda". Infections just do not happen - they are caused. Non-cooperative people are a danger to society in general!

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                  stumac last edited by

                  Well said Rowuk, here in Melbourne we are in stage 4 lockdown for the next 6 weeks due to second wave of infections, curfew from 8:00 pm to 5:00am, travel limited to 5 km from home, only 1 person allowed out at a time, businesses closed except essential. No group music since mid March. I doubt the community Orchestra I play in will resume this year. We have Police and Army Personal checking people that have been found positive to the virus are staying home, yesterday they found 150 not at home, What hope do we have for a fast recovery.

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                    djeffers78 last edited by

                    It’s the government’s that lock us down. We’ve lived with various virus’ since we’ve been here

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                    • Kehaulani
                      Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

                      "The government", in this case, are the highly experienced, infectious disease medical experts the President, himself, selected.

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                      • Dr GO
                        Dr GO @Kehaulani last edited by

                        @Kehaulani said in Playing risks in Covid-time:

                        "The government", in this case, are the highly experienced, infectious disease medical experts the President, himself, selected.

                        I don't think the President selected Fauci. I believe he was already in the position as the Director of the National Science Foundation Allergy and Infections Disease Division. The President can only elect to listen or not to listen to Dr. Fauci's advice.

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                        • Dr GO
                          Dr GO @ROWUK last edited by

                          @ROWUK said in Playing risks in Covid-time:
                          ...Fact is, if everyone simply practices good hygiene, distancing and wears a mask whenever possible, we could be well on our way to recovery...

                          And at the present time, this is the ONLY intervention we have at this time to prevent the spread. Sadly, there are many here in the USA that when not mandated by Government, does not follow this advice. That is why the US has had such an augmented rise in the past month.

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                          • ROWUK
                            ROWUK Veterans & Military Musicians Western Europe Group Monette Club @djeffers78 last edited by ROWUK

                            @djeffers78 No, the lockdown is in the meantime the result of stupid behaviour. There is no doubt about what transmits the disease. The government only makes choices to protect as many as possible. Just following the news should show you what happens when the availability of hospital beds and respirators get short - people die.
                            What bothers me is that America went crazy when 3000 people died on 09-11 , but 250000 with covid in a short time should just be a risk that we should accept. What hurts more is that many of these people claim to be Christians - so much for loving your neighbor as yourself.

                            The whole argument is selfish. Unfortunately, that seems to be the only game these days.

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                            • Kehaulani
                              Kehaulani Credentialed Professional @Dr GO last edited by

                              @Dr-GO said in Playing risks in Covid-time:

                              @Kehaulani said in Playing risks in Covid-time:

                              "The government", in this case, are the highly experienced, infectious disease medical experts the President, himself, selected.

                              I don't think the President selected Fauci. I believe he was already in the position as the Director of the National Science Foundation Allergy and Infections Disease Division. The President can only elect to listen or not to listen to Dr. Fauci's advice.

                              Doesn't Fauci "serve at the pleasure of the President"?

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                              • ROWUK
                                ROWUK Veterans & Military Musicians Western Europe Group Monette Club @Kehaulani last edited by

                                @Kehaulani said in Playing risks in Covid-time:

                                @Dr-GO said in Playing risks in Covid-time:

                                @Kehaulani said in Playing risks in Covid-time:

                                "The government", in this case, are the highly experienced, infectious disease medical experts the President, himself, selected.

                                I don't think the President selected Fauci. I believe he was already in the position as the Director of the National Science Foundation Allergy and Infections Disease Division. The President can only elect to listen or not to listen to Dr. Fauci's advice.

                                Doesn't Fauci "serve at the pleasure of the President"?

                                No, he does what is right...

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                                • Kehaulani
                                  Kehaulani Credentialed Professional @ROWUK last edited by

                                  @ROWUK said in Playing risks in Covid-time:
                                  Doesn't Fauci "serve at the pleasure of the President"?

                                  No, he does what is right...

                                  What's that supposed to mean? Do you mean that he can't be fired by the President?

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                                  • Dr GO
                                    Dr GO @Kehaulani last edited by

                                    @Kehaulani said in Playing risks in Covid-time:

                                    @ROWUK said in Playing risks in Covid-time:
                                    Doesn't Fauci "serve at the pleasure of the President"?

                                    No, he does what is right...

                                    What's that supposed to mean? Do you mean that he can't be fired by the President?

                                    No. Fauci cannot be fired by the President. He is a division head under the director of the NIH. The President can choose to kick him off the task force though.

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                                    • Kehaulani
                                      Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

                                      But isn't the NIH a government agency under the Executive? Not quibbling or arguing, just want clarification.

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                                      • Dr GO
                                        Dr GO @Kehaulani last edited by

                                        @Kehaulani said in Playing risks in Covid-time:

                                        But isn't the NIH a government agency under the Executive? Not quibbling or arguing, just want clarification.

                                        From a CNN New Feed: Under federal law, Trump doesn't have the power to directly fire Fauci, a career civil servant, and remove him from government. And while Trump could try ordering his political appointees to dismiss the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Fauci could appeal -- a time-consuming process.

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                                        • grune
                                          grune last edited by

                                          I could write a book. Suffice to say what occurs now in the USA is by design. The covid is here to stay.

                                          Einstein said it best: If man is to survive in the long run, he requires a substantially altered way of thinking.

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                                          • grune
                                            grune @Dr GO last edited by

                                            @Dr-GO

                                            To quote Kissinger...
                                            The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.

                                            Why would Trump be any different?

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