Favorite Cornet
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"It's not a trumpet. It's a bloody euphonium!"
-- Harry, "Brassed Off" (Played by Jim Carter, "Mr. Carson" of Downton Abbey)Yeah, I know the picture shows a mellophone. But there is no good line about mellophones in "Brassed Off".
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@flugelgirl said in Favorite Cornet:
@Richard-III It’s a mellophone - quite an old one from the looks of it. In case you ever wonder about the difference between a marching French horn an mellophone, a mellophone takes a trumpet or cornet type shank while a marching French horn takes a French horn mpc. Some are left handed and some right, but most are in f or Bb.
FG, you are right. I have both in my stable and play them all the time. I got this one, and have always wanted one, to play in a small jazz band. I like period instruments for playing the old music.
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@administrator said in Favorite Cornet:
It's out of tune -- that's what it is.
Funny thing about trumpet players. They expect an instrument to play in tune with the tuning slide pulled out a little bit and the rest all snug in starting positions. French horn players know that you have to tune all the valves too. My double horn has every slide in the right position to get all the notes in tune. The old mellophones were no different. The only note I have to be careful with is the G in the staff. Sort of like the C# and D for trumpets. Just be aware and all is fine.
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@Richard-III said in Favorite Cornet:
I don't have the before, but then again, the before and after pretty much look the same. The difference is the leak between the lead pipe and the receiver is fixed. Plays much better now. Is it a cornet? It plays with a cornet mouthpiece. However, it plays in F. Also with all of the extra crooks it also can play in Eb, D and C. In F the fingerings are Bb trumpet/cornet.
Reminds me of a cornopean. If it has Stoelzel valves, voila!, cornopean!
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@N0isemaker said in Favorite Cornet:
This is my Conn 36A " CONCERT GRAND "
I just figured out how to post a photo.
Some say this is one of the best cornets Conn ever made.
I don't know about that but it has a great cornet sound
and I have enjoyed having it.
More information can be found on the " CONN LOYALIST " website.I have one. It was copied from the King Master. Not running down your 36A (I like it). The king though is lighter, plays easier, has better valves, and plays in tune without adjustng any slides. It is though (as you said brighter than the 36A) I like darker.! !
1953 King Master
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My 1947 36A
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Thanks Richard for my new favorite Cornet!!!
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Is that for playing or mounting on the wall next to the singing bass?
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@ACB Nice!!!
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@ACB said in Favorite Cornet:
Thanks Richard for my new favorite Cornet!!!
Trent, that's the sound I was aiming for with that cornet. I never got it right. You have. Perfect. Nicely done. Might be my favorite recording of you ever.
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@Tobylou8 Actually, it's not a cornopean, but a stop-gap device: It's a right-handed French horn, to be played by a cornet or flugelhorn player in bands where they could not get their hands on proper French horn players... they are still being made!
http://www.flohmarkt.ms/hoerner/meister+hans+hoyer+f+waldhorn+rechtsgriffig+goldmessing+neuware/a/f45e9e5d/?absIndex=20&categoryId=3401000000&keywords=es-waldhorn&rView=gallery -
Olds A6ST, designed late in the Olds history, meant to be the 'ambassador' to the brass band market in the UK. -
@GeorgeB said in Favorite Cornet:
I love my 1962 Conn Victor 5A
I have owned 5 Conn 5A cornets over the years, from mint condition to terrible condition, and it was my favorite model of cornet.
Even better than my two Conn 9A cornets,
because the Conn 5A had a more gentle, beautiful tone.Second-best was a 1953 Conn 34A, identical to a 1940's Conn 12A but with a brass bell.
Copper bells look more beautiful, but every time I close my eyes and listen, the brass bells sound more beautiful than the copper bells.
moshe
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@Richard-III thank you so much selling the horn to me! I let my 9a go to a client yesterday because I love this horn so much!
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@Happy-Canuck
Nice cornet, not many of around. -
Favorite? Not sure at this moment due to some recent acquisitions. I meant to buy an old Bb made by M. Dupont, Paris. No serial number on it, so I'm not sure when it was made.
As it turns out, the cornet is in the key of C.
Then I added a Bb Conn Wonder from the late 1800's. That showed up and it was in pretty good shape. Just got it back from the repair technician. Plays great.
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So that made a new one in C and Bb. I thought I would also include my Boosey & Hawkes Eb cornet to show the compete set. Pretty much have everything covered now.
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The Conn Wonder has an interesting feature. Note the small devices on the tuning slide. They allow pushing the slide in with the left thumb and pushing it out with one of the fingers using a normal left hand grip. Should you want to adjust tuning on the fly, it is quite easy.
Also, I haven't measured the bore size, but it certainly feels like a small bore. Very easy to play from low to high with a consistent tone.
Anybody know more about this cornet?
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I have a few old cornets piled in a corner of the spare bedroom. Sometimes I get them out of their cases and play them, but most all my playing gigs these days are for trumpet. I pulled one out last night and played through some of the solos (the sections I can play) in the back of one of the Clarke books. Cornets are fun to play!
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My favourite cornet today is this sweet old Martin Indiana which "saved my life".
My band had two slots -Sunday and Monday of a holiday weekend at a jazz festival an hour and a half drive from home. I normally stay for the whole weekend, but family matters prevented this. I arrived an hour before our slot, opened the hatch of my car to see no trumpet. Don't like leaving horns in a car.
Most of the bands with brass players had played on the previous days and had left town. Was walking from the car in my stupid purple suit when someone on the way to their gig said "great suit". I told him that I should've spent more time packing my instrument than dressing up. His keyboardist, a local, rocked up and said "I have an old trumpet upstairs". He returned with this baby.
It performed almost flawlessly. The first valve was sticking during a solo in Dm - fortunately you can hold down 1st and still make fair riff in Dm . No valve oil, so I had to make do with a bit of old school saliva on the valves