No Name Trumpet

[J. Jericho]

A friend of mine who does not play trumpet acquired one and asked me what I thought of it. I replied that without a stamp on the bell, and without a serial number, I'm guessing that the manufacturer didn't want anyone to know who they were, and the look of the case suggests this as well. It looks like some Chinese or Indian manufacturer tried to copy an expensive trumpet. Chinese manufacturers tend to identify their products in some way, whereas Indian manufacturers don't. It usually takes a very long time for quality silver plate to wear off, and it looks like the plating has done so in several non-wear places, unless I'm not seeing the photos clearly. If it's Chinese, I'd guess it could perhaps sell for $175 - $375 to someone who fell in love with the modernistic look of it. However, if it's Indian, the figures would be more like $0 - $100. It would help tremendously if he could find a receipt for its purchase.

We welcome your comments. Pictures below:

[SSmith1226]

I would say immitation Chinese “Professional Heavy Bb Trumpet Horn Not Golden but Silver Monel Valve Germany Brass Case and Free Shipping”.
Did you play it? And what’s with the Blow Dart Gun?

[administrator]

What makes it "Germany brass"?

[Dale Proctor]

To me, any instrument without a serial # or a name on the bell is a TSO (trumpet shaped object). Of course, one having that identification on it doesn’t mean it isn’t a TSO, either.

[J. Jericho]

I have not played this trumpet; my friend lives in another state.

The blow dart gun looks like an interchangeable leadpipe insert. See the clamp screw on the mouthpiece end of the leadpipe on the horn?

What do you make of the collar connecting the bell tail to the piece of tubing coming out of the first valve?

[J. Jericho]

@administrator Come to think of it, what is Matt Brass? Or should the question be: "Who is Matt Brass?"

[administrator]

I would purchase the horn for 1/4 it's price. $1300 is very steep for a no-name make & model.

[stumac]

@J-Jericho said in No Name Trumpet:

I have not played this trumpet; my friend lives in another state.

The blow dart gun looks like an interchangeable leadpipe insert. See the clamp screw on the mouthpiece end of the leadpipe on the horn?

What do you make of the collar connecting the bell tail to the piece of tubing coming out of the first valve?

Judging by the knurled collars in the middle of the front and rear bracts and the brace from bell to 2nd valve the bell is removable.

Regards, Stuart.

[J. Jericho]

@stumac said in No Name Trumpet:

Judging by the knurled collars in the middle of the front and rear bracts and the brace from bell to 2nd valve the bell is removable.

Regards, Stuart.

Thanks for pointing that out. I was wondering about the braces. I missed the 2nd valve attachment. The 1st and 3rd slide stops caught my eye, though.

[flugelgirl]

Looks like they were trying to copy the Getzen Renaissance and Edwards modular in the same model. I wouldn’t have high hopes for it, but once in a while you get one that’s put together ok.

[J. Jericho]

@flugelgirl If it wasn't for the lack of identification, I'd think it was a Frankenhorn.

[ROWUK]

If that is the original case, it is a far east creation. I do not think that a realistic value can be placed without physically seeing the horn - even if it were a popular brand. Valve condition, repairs, etc. all determine its value.

In this case with the leadpipe sleeve, I would assume that it did not come from the factory this way. I would suspect someone customized.

In my view, it looks terribly unbalanced. Sheet bracing, removable bell imply "heavy" something that is not good for a horn not designed to specifically be that way.

[Dirk020]

I feel very sorry for the person that überhaupt (to use a German word) considers buying this horn