Posts made by Kujo20

Ending the show with Satin Doll! Nice!

Gents,

It’s time to end this. Take it to private messaging if you must, but please let it be done in the public threads.

I’m one of those weirdos that just plays the horn. If it feels wrong...it’s not the horn for me.

I am very analytical about a lot of things...but testing out instruments isn’t one of them.

@Dr-Mark said in Best Off-brand Trumpets:

Hi L-A Horns,
I played a Gansch horn recently and the valve action (rotary) was smooth as butter. It also has a bent bell so the rotary valves will fit. Oh, and it sounded really good! My daughter played it too and said it reminded her of a hotdog because the bent bell makes the horn sorta look like a hotdog but after trying several really top flight horns from Monette to Taylor, she liked the Gansch Horn (made by Schagerl ) the best.

Have her try a Schlub!

$25 bucks!?!?

You got a sweet deal on that horn...even after the restoration costs you might have had!

@Dr-Mark said in How about a "Random Meaningless Image...let's see them string"?:

@Kehaulani said in How about a "Random Meaningless Image...let's see them string"?:

I stand in awe at what those info-tech guys have done but . . Buddha? Jesus? Come on.

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There's a gazillion religions out there and according to the rules, we need to steer clear of all of them. The same goes with politics. Let's get back to the important stuff. Random Meaningless Images!

Agreed, let’s get back to “meaningless images” for this thread.

@Kehaulani said in What's Your View On the Use of Time and Space In Music:

@Kujo20 said in What's Your View On the Use of Time and Space In Music:

@Dr-Mark said in What's Your View On the Use of Time and Space In Music:

I went through my Maynard/Arturo phase in high school. Interesting.

That just shows the difference in personalities and value systems. I never had a Maynard/Arturo phase. I was always much more interested in Miles, Chet, Freddie and the like. I certainly was impressed by the high notes from Maynard, Chase, Cat Anderson but way more impressed by the improvisors, even lead players with range but with less showy style, like Conrad Gozzo.

BTW, my technique was just fine, making all-state band, orchestra and choir even with special waiver to play in all-state high school band while in Jr. high, so not making excuses for poor chops.

I wasn't being facetious about reading John Cage's Silence. It not only deals with sound and silence, it even introduces being aware of ambient or "background" sound that fills in the space in "silence". I was raise mostly in Japan and Hawai'i among mainly Japanese-Americans so my aesthete on sound and silence is perhaps with a different default sensitivity.

If you listen to latter Miles you hear a wall of contemporary sound, yet his personal playing still relays a great deal on space and silence. One aesthete of his is that in his spaces, there is still sound of interest going on in the other instruments. Some might call it a rhythm section. but they are actually co-creators in the music and their sound in his silences are not breaks in the music, but a continuum simply without his voice.

My “Maynard/Arturo” phase was short lived, trust me! Thanks partially to that director, and thanks partially because you can only listen to so many screeching high notes before you get a headache.

Trumpet was my first instrument, but far from the only one I played in high school. Most of my musical influences were not trumpet players...and if they were it was more for their flugelhorn playing and sound (Roy Hargrove, Art Farmer, Clark Terry).

@Kehaulani said in How about a "Random Meaningless Image...let's see them string"?:

Man, Dr. Mark, you're going to imply those technological advancements made within only decades trump the life transforming, wars, philosophies that religious movements have influenced mankind for centuries?

I think the only thing implied is that the man has impacted the planet on a massive scale. I suspect the original “Gates and Jobs impact over a religion” was likely hyperbole.

However, I did notice that post said “a religion”... it didn’t specify which religion. So, I guess it is possible! There are so many out there...some of which hardly anybody knows about.

@Dr-Mark said in What's Your View On the Use of Time and Space In Music:

Hi Dr-GO,
Yes, Miles used time and space a lot. For me, I've found through experience a very interesting thing!
Years ago I was going through my John Coltrane phase and every solo had every note known to God and man.
During that time, I did this show at a swank venue and after the show I was dripping with sweat and if asked, I'd say I knocked it out of the park. While packing up, I overheard two guys talking. The first guy said; "Wow that guy on trumpet was good. Did you hear all those notes?" The second guy said "Yes, I heard him. Its a shame he didn't play the melody more often."
Bingo! Lesson learned. People need to be able to anticipate what's coming up in the song and time to digest what they hear. Now I use a lot of space and I base the usage on how the sound dissipates in the room. Using this method quickly makes one understand that some rooms just suck to perform in!
Its one of the things I teach students. I tell them to not just listen to their trumpet, listen to their trumpet in relation to the room they are playing in. When we listen to the room when we play, the use of space appears easier to apply.

I went through my Maynard/Arturo phase in high school. I played very well in all the different groups, but in jazz...every solo I had...I just had to show off. I would play as many notes as I could (faster louder higher) until a new director came in and told me (one on one) “what you’re doing is cool, but you’re not really making music with the group”.

That was my first real reality hit to feel the group and the song instead of just thinking about mechanics and trying to showcase all the different tricks and skills.

After that, I began to think much more about the silences between notes and how much of an impact they could have. Those rests can have just as much dramatic impact as a massive explosion of sound.

@Dr-Mark said in Flugel Thread:

@Kujo20 said in Flugel Thread:

it was handmade by George Schlub (Schlub Brass Works).

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Your horn reminds me of my Rottweiler. People stop and talk to me just so they can meet my dog. I have a feeling people have come up to you and struck a conversation just to talk about and see your horn.
That's a really neat looking horn!

It’s been known to happen! Non musicians tend to ask “what is that?” quickly followed by “what’s a flugelhorn...is that like a dr. Suesse thing?”

@Kehaulani said in Flugel Thread:

Thank you. Not only is the workmanship outstanding, I'll bet the price is, as well.

It was not cheap, that much is true. However, for the level of custom work that went into this horn...and the high end components like Zirnbaur valves...you would be surprised at how much less $$$ it cost compared to other flugels.

In fact, I can tell you that it was less expensive than STOCK (non custom) models from Monette, Harrelson, Taylor, Inderbinen, Marcinkiewicz, Schagerl...and probably a few more I’m not thinking of at the moment.

Worth it!

@Kehaulani said in Flugel Thread:

@Dr-Mark said in Flugel Thread:

@Kujo20
. . looks like an espresso machine that did the naughty with a flugelhorn.

LOL!!

Actually, I love 'em both. Maybe something to look into.
Who makes them and what do they sound like?

If you’re referring to my horn, it was handmade by George Schlub (Schlub Brass Works).

Completely custom made as all his horns are.

It is easy to really “sing” on this horn. Not stuffy, trumpety, or squirrelly...just a clear, ringing flugelhorn sound. I find it easy to play jazz ballads, symphonic, chamber,...pretty much everything you would want a flugelhorn to do!

George’s craftsmanship is top notch and I’ve never heard a less than raving review from someone that has owned or played one of his instruments.

@Kehaulani said in Mariachi trumpet:

Bright horns and mouthpieces help, but concept and characteristic articulations are most important.

Hit the nail on the head!

The Jens masterclass video posted by Dr Mark the other day included a small bit about mariachi playing that specifically mentioned (and briefly demonstrated) what you’re talking about.

@curmudgeoner said in Flugel Thread:

@Dr-GO . Wow! I had no idea that horn had come out. I have a 1525 customize with the 1025 slide trigger and regular spit valves rather than amatos. I just read in an ad on TH that Kanstul has gone out of business. Is that true?

Indeed, it is true.

I’d be willing to bet that a handful of dealers have some on hand though.

How about we throw picc trumpet into the mix? And C trumpet too!

How should the approach be different between Bb and picc? Should the approach be different between Bb and C?

It doesn’t have anything to do with how the horn plays, but the horn looking “cool” is a big key for young kids.

Kids can lose interest pretty quickly if their peers make fun of them for not having a shiny instrument. It’s a fickle, petty thing, but unfortunately a real issue.

Does everybody remember the 1-2 kids in middle school that had a “silver” trumpet? In a 12 year old mind...silver means a better/more expensive trumpet.

As mentioned though, build quality and condition will be the key factors. If the trumpet has it, then it fits the bill for the original post.

We’ll have to start a list in this thread of horns that fit an average budget that members can attest to quality (like the suggestions in the posts above).

The way I see it...TB is a community. Yes, we all share “trumpet” in common...but it is not all that we are. I don’t think any of us eat/breath/sleep trumpet 100% of the time.

As mentioned already by other members, there are a handful of music, theory, and legit topic threads started. Added members and increased participation from those members will grow the entire forum.

Give it time and continue to contribute to the topics you’re seeking.

@Kehaulani said in Jazz Song #3 - So What:

It isn't the best fit but it also depends on how it's done. With creativity and ingenuity, it can be done. For high school kids, who knows? I used to teach at a school of the arts and I know those kids could pull it off, but I don't know about your setting.

Also, the director may have made the choice because the bass player wasn't ready for the piece. Was this germane?

Great point. It definitely did not fit the skill level of the trumpet player in question. Had it gone to perhaps the tenor sax or piano...it would have been a different story!