Posts made by Jolter

Looks like you can get it from Italy dirt cheap.
https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/9067502?ev=rb

Ebay is not the only site with used record sales.

@Kujo20 said in First Horns:

My first horn was a used Yamaha YTR2320.

Served me well for several years until I upgraded to a Xeno. The 2320 was still used as a bad weather marching horn.

Hello, are you me?

I started on the music school's rental YTR-2320 which had trouble with the third valve sticking. Probably impact damage on the third slide. After a couple years, my parents sprung for a used identical trumpet (minus the sticky valve).

I still have that second horn but I'm considering selling it since it is still a decent enough player and I don't do as many marching gigs (or drunk gigs for that part) as I used to, and anyway I mostly play some kind of lower brass when marching, these days.

Thomas Gansch is doing concerts from his living room, live streamed every Saturday, soliciting donations.
This one with Georg Breinschmid is crazy at times, brilliant always. Music starts at ca 8.55. How can they mix bebop with polka, and at that tempo?

What other things are musicians getting up to, now that there are no gigs anymore?

I love this kind of initiative which shows how creativity can be stimulated by restrictions. Suddenly, they have time to pursue video production because regular rehearsals and concerts are prohibited!

(I guess it goes without saying that Sweden only banned crowds over 50 people, so far. It still seems a little risky to seat more than one player per car but at least they're not breaking any laws.)

A musician friend of mine is giving 30-minute concerts on Facebook once a week. She live streams, and people can send in donations via the local equivalent of Paypal. I guess it is paying off decently enough because she's now going on five weeks. She's also given (paid) "balcony gigs" at a home for the elderly. That is, the patients are on their balconies, and she played outside.

I'm so sad I couldn't catch this live, but darn, it works really well as an on-demand stream.

It's amazing the names that are suddenly available for this kind of light-hearted thing. All my heroes, on one stream!

Edit: I think Arturo is right, no-one apart from Sarah could have gotten all these faces up on one screen simultaneously.

@Kehaulani Then it would no longer be the perfect fit it was for my Yamaha and other trumpets...

Yeah I know, I could own two harmon mutes. But the discovery coincided with a friend really needing a new trumpet, and after playing my Olds, it was clear it was meant for him.

Loved my old Recording. Unfortunately it didn't take modern harmon mutes well, for some reason they kept falling out. Sold it to a player who doesn't need it in a big band...
I take it this model has a pretty mainstream bell design? Might be better for my use, then...

Without knowing any trumpeters in particular beginning with "Z", yeah a 1503 must be it, being Kanstul's "72LT clone".

So I take it the Plaza is not a straight up copy of any Kanstul? The name makes me think of the Kanstul Coliseum but the specs don't match up.

@Kehaulani said in Mouthpiece recommendations for young beginners:

Well, here we go in circles. Isn't a Yamaha 11C4, Yamaha's take on the Schilke 11?

I think it is, yes. And not coincidentally, an 11C4 was included with my Yamaha beginner's horn in the 80s, so that's what I played all the way up to age 23. It's actually marked "11C4/7C".

I noted they now include their 11B4 with (at least some of) their student line. I suppose that should work well for youngsters, except if the student has thick enough lips to find the B cup too shallow. Both pretty middle-of-the-road pieces, on the smaller side. They ship a 16C4 with their pro line trumpets - IMO, they might as well not include one...

@OldSchoolEuph said in BAC Plaza:

Kanstul DNA

Is there anything particular about this model that shows a Kanstul heritage? I assume you're seeing details either in the picture or description that I'm overlooking.

If we look at the description of their Paseo 'Z72' Model Trumpet, they leave not-so-veiled hints. Not sure why they couldn't use the trademark, I guess that was not included in the sale. Anyone know exactly what model they mean by "one of the more popular commercial models"?

https://www.coolisbac.com/paseo

The tooling used for this instrument came from a very respected American workshop in Anaheim, CA, and was one of the more popular Commercial Models produced among studio and session players.

@barliman2001 said in Looking for Besson Meha piston (Kanstul):

@Jolter There is a Besson Meha for sale at Votruba's shop in Vienna. I've test played it, and it's one of the really good Mehas... here's the link: https://www.votruba-musik.at/gebrauchte-instrumente/trompeten-fluegelhoerner.php

But did you try the Benge?

(Thanks for the tip, but right now, I don't have the money to spend on a valve job, much less on a new Meha...)

@Trumpetsplus said in Looking for Besson Meha piston (Kanstul):

Worn valves on a trumpet normally cause plying issues before sticking issues.

Yeah that's what I've heard before, too. I don't really think I've experienced any leakage at all with this horn, because it plays beautifully across the whole range and I find it to compare very favorably to my Xeno in most respects. The exterior is not very worn at all, in fact the plating is near perfect and there are virtually not dings on it, so I'm hesitant to say this was caused by normal wear on the valves. Of course, it could have been a very careful previous owner. (Apart from that drop on the bottom caps.)

@grune You're right about the horns branded "Thomann". I agree the ones I've tried were not terrible.

But more importantly, keep in mind this is Europe's largest music business we're talking about here. They have a very complete inventory of almost every imaginable (major) brand of instruments. So to say that their horns are made in China can come off as unnecessarily disparaging.

@Trumpetsplus said in Looking for Besson Meha piston (Kanstul):

I am still interested in knowing the dimensions.

Good call.
My tech tells me (my translation: "Your horn has probably had an accident and someone replaced valves 1 and 2. I feel there is too much play in 1 & 2, at 0,05 mm compared to only 0,02 on number 3"

Actually only valve 1 sticks, number 2 seems to work fine.

There is corroborating evidence that there was an accident: when I got the horn off eBay, the bottom valve caps were replaced with heavy caps. But what's more, the threads on the valve casings were dented to the point where one of the caps wouldn't reliably come on and off. I got that fixed by a different local tech, but I only asked him to fix the threads as I hadn't really noticed the sticking yet, then.

Myself I have no idea why the dimension are different. It's certainly possible they were replaced, but I suppose another explanations might be that the casings were damaged and someone did a poor job of straightening them, perhaps including excessive honing/lapping?

Would you happen to know how much play there normally should be in a Kanstul piston?

Would re-plating and re-fitting the pistons be a surefire way to fix this, you think?

@SSmith1226 said in Klezmer Music:

I haven’t researched where you can obtain the following outstanding arrangements, but here they are:

Mnozil Brass do sell a few of their arrangements in their web shop -- actually, they mostly sell their original songs. Too much hassle to get permission to sell arrangements of others' music, I image.
Unfortunately, they mostly seem to have older stuff and not this particular song. It is a Mnozil original but based on trad tunes (video says it's composed by one of the trombone players, Gerhard Füssl).

https://mnozil-brass.myshopify.com/collections/sheets-notenblatter

@SSmith1226 That last one is a doozy! Well worth the listen.

Not sure why my embedded video didn't work for you - yours gives me a "Video Unavailable" error. Maybe it has something to do with geography and how the record companies segment their markets...

@Dr-Mark said in Håkan Hardenberger: How To Anticipate Pitch And Breathe:

@Jolter said in Håkan Hardenberger: How To Anticipate Pitch And Breathe:

Are you sure it's not just that she's playing straight into the mic while he's playing out "into the room" (ie less direct sound into the room and more reflected off the walls)?

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Hi Jolter,
I can't be sure of anything as I wasn't there but I don't see a mic.

Well not to sound too poignant, but if there was no microphone present, we would not be hearing anything.

I meant whatever device is picking up the sound we're hearing, is positioned someplace. It may be on/in the camera, or in front of the stage, in which case the student is playing towards it while Håkan is playing away from it, to the side. That could explain a little of the rough edges since I think most players sound better with some acoustics between the bell and the mic. (He's still infinitely better sounding, I'm just saying he might have had some help from the room.)

@Niner said in Reasons to NOT Collect Trumpets:

@Jolter I understand your feeling about it. Obviously good advice not to put all of ones eggs in a basket that could burn up or be blown away by a hurricane. Always buy insurance for collections and don't expect home owners to cover much of any actual collection collection. However, you might want to leave stock out of the secure list. I had some American Airline stock and they went bankrupt and started up again as though nothing had happened except to the stock holders. It's called reorganization but the only thing is sure is that the previous stock holders are left with nothing. I had some Kodak stock.....same story. I've got some other stocks that could go south as well....the most suspect is a mutual fund of Gold mines and precious metal stocks that is now worth about $3 a share.

I could argue that a person who buys stock directly in any business is already putting too many eggs in one basket. Amateurs like us are not good at assessing risk of individual companies, and should stick to mutual funds or other collective forms of investment, which spread the risk over several businesses in a sector, a region, a country or across a whole stock market. The breadth of the fund should reflect the level of risk you're willing to take. Investing in Japanese stock in general is less risky than investing in only Yamaha stock, but more risky than buying into a fund that makes global investments. Gold and precious metals, again, is a narrow enough choice to carry some risk. Of course higher risk in a fund means a higher potential gain as well.

But that's a little derail, isn't it. I guess it's also safe to say that most vintage trumpets don't only carry greater risk than the stock market, but also generally have not gained much value to talk about. Most models have barely kept up with inflation, and I don't think anything but a pristine Martin Committee Deluxe would have outperformed the S&P 500.

In my opinion this is actually pretty good.

The Tofanelli version is cool, but I wouldn't listen to it several times. I think Uri Caine genuinely captures the spirit of the original even though the style is completely different. Mahler wasn't going for "cool".