@Shepherds_Crook said in The One:
@Dr-GO ‘the One’ looks good... but watch for a trumpet instructor correcting your cross-leg posture!
It's part of my relaxed mood presentation. With the Harrelson, one can relax, sit back and those notes still come out strong and focused!
Damn, Kehaulani! You hit the nail square on the head. Couldn't have said it any better! NICE POST!!!
@Rapier232 said in Its Been an Age Long Requirement But How Many Can Do It?:
@djeffers78 said in Its Been an Age Long Requirement But How Many Can Do It?:
Nope. Absolutely cannot!
Can’t even tell you the scale if I look at it. Can’t tell what key a piece is in by looking at the key signature-just have to make a mental note about which notes are affectedMe too.
90% of the time, that is also what I do... I call it "scaling back".
@Tobylou8 said in Its Been an Age Long Requirement But How Many Can Do It?:
...been BUSY the last 6 weeks, really busy and haven't been able to post. Anything interesting going on?
Don't be a stranger... or at least not any more stranger than you already are... Discuss
@GeorgeB said in Its Been an Age Long Requirement But How Many Can Do It?:
@Bob-Pixley
...even though I play a D over high C every morning in my practice routines.
I'll take a first valve note over an open note anytime!
@flugelgirl said in Its Been an Age Long Requirement But How Many Can Do It?:
...To think I missed all this drama while working on some modal scale patterns is kind of funny, though!
I do prefer modal over mood-al ANY TIME. Albeit that I must admit, with the Covid-19 crisis and the fact that about a third of my patients have mood disorders, business has been very good for me! Hang in there Flugelgirl and stay safe and healthy, but from my reading of things, your part of the country has things under better control.
@Kehaulani said in Its Been an Age Long Requirement But How Many Can Do It?:
A few days later, I caught up with the winning candidate and he said, "I just don't get it. I just did what I could getting through the changes". LOL.
Yeah, that is exactly the way I felt. Nicely stated Kehaulani!
@Kehaulani said in Its Been an Age Long Requirement But How Many Can Do It?:
@Dr-GO said in Its Been an Age Long Requirement But How Many Can Do It?:
What was amazing at the Colorado State University audition was an improve piece where they gave me a chord chart only (no recorded rhythm section back up) and told me to start playing. Again, no range requirement which was interesting, and I came out of that audition as lead trumpet (first chair) in their first band!Don't you suspect that you used lead-book ranges in your improvisation?
You know, I still remember that audition fairly well, and I was so floored that I had chords without notes as an audition on changes written by the one of the two judges on the spot (no name, no standard tune recognition) that I was doing everything I could just to concentrate on the chord progressions, placing in patterns and put it in my mind to stay relaxed as possible which I set myself to stay in a real comfortable range.
I do believe the site reading tune went up to a D above high C that was transient, in a phrase that then came down and did not require a lot of stamina. I did hit a real solid and full sounding D so maybe that was what the judges wanted to hear.
I got to admit, one of the judges knew Frank Brown, that I studied under while at UC and he knew Frank worked his trumpet section to be proficient in the high range, so maybe that was my ticket to the lead chair.
Come to think of it, the requirement Colorado State Should have made of me is finding out how high I could play before I passed out! I came to Ft. Collins (over 5,000 ft elevation) from Cincinnati (300 ft elevation). I remembered our first rehearsal for the #1 band starting on a Stan Kenton chart starting with a high E (second E above staff) for 5 bars. I hit the note square on but only remembered three bars, and that was the point I lost consciousness. I took out two bleachers of chairs and stands behind me and fell on both my trumpet that I was holding at the time and my flugelhorn that was behind me.
After about 3 months I had the corpuscles to open back up without fear, until we had a gig at the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park at which time I learned to respect altitude and played a bit more reserved.
You know, other than the two octave scales I was required to do of all scales in High School, an upper register was never a requirement. The auditions I made for all other ensembles I auditioned for (University of Cincinnati College Conservatory of Music Jazz Ensembles-small group combos and big band and Colorado State University Big Band) were to perform required prepared piece an a site reading piece).
What was amazing at the Colorado State University audition was an improve piece where they gave me a chord chart only (no recorded rhythm section back up) and told me to start playing. Again, no range requirement which was interesting, and I came out of that audition as lead trumpet (first chair) in their first band!
@Kehaulani said in Its Been an Age Long Requirement But How Many Can Do It?:
Why is it called High C?
So, if you don't call it High C, what do you call it?
I've thought a lot of this and can't come up with a good substitute. It's a good system for direct communication. Perhaps the take-away from this, is not to change the terminology but, in pedagogy, to constantly reinforce in the student not to think of it as high, rather just another part of the range.
How about the first C above staff?
@Dr-Mark said in Its Been an Age Long Requirement But How Many Can Do It?:
@Dr-GO said in Its Been an Age Long Requirement But How Many Can Do It?:
Woody Shaw comes out first in my mind as being exceptionally gifted at doing this. I once asked him for lessons when I lived in NYC to teach me his modal concepts... unfortunately he turned me down as a student.
Heck, you should have come to me. I would have shown you how for free. Well.... maybe for a beer or two.
Silly me! Why didn't I think of that at the time I had you on that stage with me! HOWEVER, my consolation prize WAS getting those two beer coasters from you with some modal changes to dial between, yes? So in a way, the beer did find it's way to communicate some concepts.
@Dr-Mark said in Its Been an Age Long Requirement But How Many Can Do It?:
@Dr-GO said in Its Been an Age Long Requirement But How Many Can Do It?:
You know Dr. Mark, I find working in the modal scales really helps incorporate finger patterns that can always be retro fitted into a pattern with any improv solo (as long as the right modal pattern is chosen in the right key).
You sure got that right. Many famous jazz heros had a penchant for particular modes and scales
Woody Shaw comes out first in my mind as being exceptionally gifted at doing this. I once asked him for lessons when I lived in NYC to teach me his modal concepts... unfortunately he turned me down as a student.
@Dr-Mark said in Its Been an Age Long Requirement But How Many Can Do It?:
@Dr-GO said in Its Been an Age Long Requirement But How Many Can Do It?:
Now trying to get all the modes of all the scales bit by bit but there are only so many hours in the day
Gary, If you know all the major scales, you also know the modes by default. D to D in the key of C major is a Dorian. D,E,F,G,A,B,C,D.
You are so right, but to me its a mind set issue to actually make it sound modal and not just another scale. Does that make sense?
You know Dr. Mark, I find working in the modal scales really helps incorporate finger patterns that can always be retro fitted into a pattern with any improv solo (as long as the right modal pattern is chosen in the right key).
@Dr-Mark said in Its Been an Age Long Requirement But How Many Can Do It?:
One has to wonder if the term "High C" had never been coined, how much easier playing all twelve major scales two octaves would be? **
With half dilution by a good Vodka added to Hi-C, playing is REAL easy!
Great idea. I am good on two octave scales. Now trying to get all the modes of all the scales bit by bit over two octaves but there are only so many hours in the day... and with this Covid-19 duty time is a factor.
@FranklinD said in Please Help Me Understand Something (Pt 2):
tmd: ... But you bill for it as a Cluster B personality disorder. Passive aggression, rationalization, narcissism, splitting. It's all here in this thread.
You forgot ignorance, but of course you could not know that.
Please FranlinD STOP attacking the physicians on this site!
As for ignorance, let me show you what an attack looks like to give you a REAL example of your hate. Yes. Dr. Mike and I both know ignorance as your IQ is truly way down there in the shallow end of the gene pool.
This time I am going to the administration to request you are banned from this site. I know you already received one warning but yet you continue.
@administrator said in Please Help Me Understand Something (Pt 2):
Well, I like to see myself as the "benevolent dictator" here...but, it is my website after all!
....This Space for Rent
@OldSchoolEuph said in Please Help Me Understand Something (Pt 2):
Wow, just think what we might discover, or at least share, if that much typing were expended on topics related to the instrument itself, advances in design, fabrication or materials, new repertoire, innovative approaches to unique situations with students . . . . .
Seriously, what an amazing template this would be to follow...