@Niner
Looks just like my Olympian.
Which looks like the very first Holton Collegiate line.
Not 100% sure but may be made by a company back then called Beaufort-maybe
OldSchoolEuph probably will have the most knowledge on this subject and I consider his site to be biblical in trumpet history content
It’s the government’s that lock us down. We’ve lived with various virus’ since we’ve been here
Maybe this site is already more trumpet and musical geared than once thought.
It’s still a small site with small numbers of membership. New blood would be interesting for sure
Something that made TM look so big to me was the constant talk of gear. A lot of that goes on at TH too. Which may be a big draw since a lot of musicians seem to be gear heads.
I always read the forums for new ideas. I also come to look at gear reviews. I know all the reviews are personal opinions but there’s some real info in the threads collectively
I tend not to post unless I feel I’ve a good question or something helpful to say.
I also only stumbled upon all three sites because of the equipment discussions, so maybe there needs to be more of that.
Maybe a thread could be started where we all can just review or gear, then keywords like brand names will lead searches here. Not just review pro gear either but student and TSO’s should also be mentioned.
Can’t go wrong with the Holton t602 Collegiate!
I remember in HS I got a new !!SILVER!! horn. It was the horn above. Back then it was the exact same horn as the couple guys that had Bach Strads
Trumpets are cheap when it comes to price for an instrument
Speaking from a construction background I think the 5 year time line is quite doable.
Even new methods can be made to look ancient
I think the bright cornet sounds might be fading away from the norm again. At least in the brass band setting.
Most are now back to a larger bore smaller bell and Wick 4. Which gives a very warm sound.
Even this year’s competition music seems to be focused more on sound and style than moving the fingers at 100 mph
As for bright sounding cornets....
I believe it’s because people think there trumpets and pop in a 3c and play just like the trumpet
Cornet is more style than anything
And it all depends on what kind of music being played
No cornet is bright with a Wick 4 plugged in
I’m not complaining but why are they so high sometimes?
I’ve bought many of not only brass instruments but vehicles, tools and stringed instruments and after I’m done with them I give them away or sell for very reasonable prices.
I’ve never resold an instrument. If I pay $1k for it then feel I got my good times out of it why should I expect someone to think it’s a good deal at $750?
All the instruments I’ve owned have been donated to schools or third world countries.
I could never resell a vehicle for more than a thousand regardless of how much I paid or put into it.
I’m not going to pay these prices I see and don’t. If for 10-25 percent more I can have brand new!
I mean a Holton (I’m a Holton fanatic) t602 for$250 used. No warranty no store to stand behind the product?
I own quite a few of those Chinese jobs that have costed less with more to offer
And for real when it comes to strings I can buy a super cheap Fender/Gibson copy and literary drop in the high end electronics and come out still spending less than $500
What’s the deal?
I’ve actually only had two trumpets that came from Amazon that I had to send back. A Mendini of which I own 3 and a Hawk. The ones they sent were defective and remedied upon request.
I’ve bought a couple duds from eBay and was stuck with them.
I’ve always been under the impression that when buying used your just paying for someone else’s dismay the the given product.
I actually enjoy fishing more than playing trumpet. Right now it’s really good fishing in the local rivers and I’ll be out today.
So this year I’ve switched from playing cornet to baritone horn......
Long before I ever learned to play I used to watch the bands in the local parade. The bone used to really speak to me, and they still do!
When I got the chance to join band I did, with the hopes to play the trombone but the teacher said my buddy and I were to small. He ended up on drums and eventually nothing. I ended up on trumpet.
Years past and I did well. Enjoying the hell out of it. Played some first chair in middle school and some second chair in HS. Most of the time I played third and sometimes fourth. My band teachers always assured me that it wasn’t due to my inability but because my tone and projection was really nice in those mid/lower registers.
Fast forward some years and I was a comeback player. Joining a community band and getting back in the saddle. Once again playing third. While somewhat disappointing I was still happy to be playing again and it led to joining other bands including a competitive brass band.
In the brass band I learned what a cornet was. Saw one once previously but didn’t really grasp what I was looking at-as it was just being played as a trumpet.
Playing 3rd cornet for a season in brass band I settled into a large bore cornet and a Wick 4. Things were feeling good.
The next season I’m sitting front row with the big dogs and really feeling like a monster. This is where I wanted to be. I’ve always struggled with counting rhythm correctly and sitting front row really highlighted that. Also I’ve now been a commercial electrician for 20 years and my hands are a bit beat. Dexterity has been comprised greatly and is just downright uncomfortable at times.
This season I’m playing second baritone and even had to audition. Sooooo..... different game all together. First and second baritone hardly ever play anything close in relation to each other. BUT I’m grasping the baritone more-I feel than I ever did the trumpet/cornet. For one I always felt that the mouthpiece I was playing on was way to small, the Wick 4 really felt good!
Now I’m basically playing something with the tone of the bone but I’m able to use the fingering I’ve learned from 30+ years as a trumpet player, and my mouthpiece is in a range I feel comfortable in. Even my director said I seemed so much more comfortable with this instrument. Bought a bone a few years ago but just couldn’t get the positions, so I donated it. To hear the tone that drew me in coming out of the horn I’m playing is such a feeling!
I still struggle with rhythm but am vastly improving. I think I grasp the idea of what I’m reading now better?
I love playing the baritone!
Anyone else have an experience like this?
I play trumpet in a swing band as well and we’re always short a trombone. Should I get a valve bone and see where I can go with that?
One day I’d like to try to play bass. Good thing is the opportunity is there. I could go BBb bass in brass band because it’s all in treble clef.
Now I also want to start teaching myself bass clef though so I can take my low brass playing to new hights or lows as it were.
I’d like to hear some of your experiences.
Oh and it’s not the baritone your used to seeing in American bands. It’s more like a bigger tenor horn.
Maybe I could buy another trombone and work more on the positions.
Not really sure what category I needed to post in do I just kinda threw the dice.
Also there’s just no discussion on baritone. Tons on euph, but I’m not really interested in that horn for whatever reason
That’s all I’ve got.
I’d really enjoy reading what you all have come to realize about your musical journey
Over on the oTHer site there is a price question. Some have stated that just because some would pay a higher price for something that is a justified reason to raise the price.
If your product is tops and it’s affordable then why would you raise the price and make it less accessible? Other than greed?
If I can really do something for someone then why should I cash in? Seems if I can make a great horn or pass along a great horn then that is what I should do
@BigDub
I’ve heard this one told that when the passerby who’d had a beer after work saw this happening pulled over and got in the back of the cruiser. When asked by the cop “what’s going on”? The passerby told the cop “go ahead and take me to jail. I’ll never pass that test.
Also no state was mentioned
That’s what I hate about the upper range. Fingerings barely mean a thing. Seems all notes can be played with any combo or none.
Although it does marginally help to center the notes
Just arrived today!
Finally pulled the trigger a bought one. These things are as cute as can be! Really didn’t expect such a big sound but wow. And the blow is just really open, I figured they’d be stuffy little guys but not at all.
Just spent like an hour and half just putting it through the paces, couldn’t put it down it was so much fun. And it is fairly comfortable to hold. I can’t wait to perform with it.
And there’s just something about the smell of a new horn when you open the case. And the little quick slide and thumb ring work flawlessly. Only needed it for the low C# according to the tuner. Can’t wait to see how it blends!
I’m sure I get more lead from my bite on fishing sinkers
Just get whatever 500 eu will get you from Thomann. Pretty much every trumpet is going to sound the same unless you really know how to use them.
Cornets are not easier. They are for the most part the exact same instrument with the exact same skill set. For my playing cornet in a BBB setting, sitting in the 3rd solo spot was the most challenging playing I’d ever done.
Get a basic standard/student model. It won’t let you down. Some pro models take some real know how to play good
I play in an amateur band that gets paid really well for our "gigs". We get radio play, have performed with a number recognized artist and compete
Our most recent of such was the principle trumpet of the Nashville symphony orchestra. And he singled me out to tell me to do it better. Not just like that but it was a part I’d been having trouble with anyway.
Sorry for posting as I’m not a professional musician
Yes!
Buddy Rogers is a house hold name around here. Rented my first trumpet from there.
I play in band with some of there employees. And I’m pretty sure they’re a sponsor of not only ours but many local bands.