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    • J. Jericho
      J. Jericho Global Moderator last edited by

      I placed two orders for routine cleaning/maintenance supplies toward the end of last year and have not received them, although I have been charged for the purchases. Communication from WWBW has consisted of various delays, including out of stock/back ordered, canceled order, shipped order to wrong recipient, will ship order promptly, will refund all charges, etc.

      Prior to these difficulties, WWBW had treated me very well. Has anyone else had similar experiences?

      In researching this phenomenon, I found significantly poor ratings for the company and also that they have reportedly combined with Musician's Friend, another company with significantly poor ratings.

      FWIW - I am moving my business to Dillon Music on a regular basis; they have always treated me exceptionally well.

      '62 Olds Studio Trumpet
      '67 Olds Special Trumpet
      2013 Dillon Pocket Trumpet
      '83 Yamaha YFH-731 Flugelhorn
      1919 York Perfec-Tone Cornet
      '50 Olds Studio Trombone
      Shofar

      "If it was just up to me, I'd only have trumpet players on my show." - Jackie Gleason

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      • Kehaulani
        Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

        I don't know how X = Z, but I ordered a horn mouthpiece over a month ago, and what usually takes a couple o days has yet to appear.

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        Getzen Capri Cornet
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        "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
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        Chet Baker

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          stumac last edited by

          These problems are symptomatic of a store/chain in trouble, I believe WWBW is part of the Guitar Center group which I heard has filed for bancrupcy.

          We has a chain of music stores close here in Australia, I had ordered a Manhassat stand from them, it was not in stock and they would order it in for me. Over the next couple of months i would ask about the stand and would be assured it was on order, I finally asked the sales person would they phone the importer and ask when they would be getting them,
          she came back and said I could pick it up tomorrow.
          Nuff Sed.

          Regards, Stuart.

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          • Dr GO
            Dr GO @Kehaulani last edited by

            @kehaulani said in Is WWBW on the ropes?:

            I don't know how X = Z, but I ordered a horn mouthpiece over a month ago, and what usually takes a couple o days has yet to appear.

            If X = A and Z = A, then X = Z QED

            Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
            Harrelson Summit 2017
            Kanstul 1526 2012
            Getzen Power Bore 1961
            Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
            Martin Committee 1946
            Olds Super Recording 1940
            Olds Recording (LA) 1953
            Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
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            • tmd
              tmd @J. Jericho last edited by tmd

              @j-jericho said in Is WWBW on the ropes?:

              I placed two orders for routine cleaning/maintenance supplies toward the end of last year and have not received them, although I have been charged for the purchases. Communication from WWBW has consisted of various delays, including out of stock/back ordered, canceled order, shipped order to wrong recipient, will ship order promptly, will refund all charges, etc.

              Prior to these difficulties, WWBW had treated me very well. Has anyone else had similar experiences?

              From your post, it isn't clear what happened. But maybe the most important question is whether you asked for a refund, and did you get it?

              As many of us know, Guitar Center owns WWBW, MusiciansFriend, Music123, and Music & Arts.

              I've never had a serious problem ordering from these companies. And when requested, I've never had a problem returning an item or getting a refund. This includes orders placed in the last month.

              Mike

              Bach Stradivarius 43* Trumpet (1974), Bach 6C Mouthpiece.
              Olds L-12 Flugelhorn (1969), Yamaha 13F4 Mouthpiece.
              Plus a few other Bach, Getzen, Olds, Carol, HN White, and Besson horns.

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              • J. Jericho
                J. Jericho Global Moderator @tmd last edited by

                @tmd Rereading my post should clarify the problem.

                Since I received no merchandise in the 4 months since I was charged for it, and my request for/their promise of a refund had not materialized, I disputed the charges with my credit card company. I have received written confirmation of reversal of the charges from my credit card company but have yet to see them posted to my account.

                '62 Olds Studio Trumpet
                '67 Olds Special Trumpet
                2013 Dillon Pocket Trumpet
                '83 Yamaha YFH-731 Flugelhorn
                1919 York Perfec-Tone Cornet
                '50 Olds Studio Trombone
                Shofar

                "If it was just up to me, I'd only have trumpet players on my show." - Jackie Gleason

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                • J. Jericho
                  J. Jericho Global Moderator last edited by

                  Update: The credit card charge reversals posted yesterday. This WWBW story is an illustration of potential vs. reality. They had a great sales model which they just did not fulfill - for a number of reasons.

                  '62 Olds Studio Trumpet
                  '67 Olds Special Trumpet
                  2013 Dillon Pocket Trumpet
                  '83 Yamaha YFH-731 Flugelhorn
                  1919 York Perfec-Tone Cornet
                  '50 Olds Studio Trombone
                  Shofar

                  "If it was just up to me, I'd only have trumpet players on my show." - Jackie Gleason

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