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    • tptguy
      tptguy last edited by

      Anyone suffer from Tinnitus? either musically induced or work related.
      How do you get sleep.
      About 7 years ago, I was grinding inside a car(no ear protection...DUH) I have been restoring cars as a bobby for the better part of my adult life...so one day I get up with this rigning in one ear, doc. said it's probably won't go away anytime soon.
      Years passed and it's just getting louder over time.
      My MD had given me something to get to sleep but has now decreased the dose and monthly allowence by half. Over the counter and "natural" sleep aids are doing it for me.
      I was hoping that with the pandemic restrictions on band rehearsals(at least in my parts) it would ease off some, but I feel it's getting worse.
      Anybody else has this issue.
      Tk's to all of you

      Guy

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      • Curlydoc
        Curlydoc @tptguy last edited by

        @tptguy I have had tinnitus for twenty years. Developed at same time as osteoarthritis. Perhaps related to anti-inflammatory drugs. So bad I had to give up seeing patients. My tinnitus is in both ears and is pretty close to 3,000 Hz. I have found that focusing my attention to other things lessens its impact. Hearing aids have also helped.

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        • Dr GO
          Dr GO last edited by Dr GO

          White noise generator at the bedside can help quit a lot.

          https://www.ata.org/managing-your-tinnitus/treatment-options/sound-therapies
          https://www.signia-hearing.com/blog/how-and-why-tinnitus-maskers-work-for-people-with-tinnitus/

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            Mike Ansberry last edited by

            I have had tinnitus for over 40 years. It started in a rock band in high school. In my day our idea of ear protection was stuffing paper napkins in your ears. I taught band in a classroom with an 8 foot ceiling for the last 15 years of my teaching career and that sure did not help. Not to mention playing in loud bands.

            I guess I just got used to it over the years. I hate it, but it doesn't keep me from sleeping. I have a pair of wireless headphones that help me hear the TV. In ear monitors have saved my trumpet playing career. (such as it was)

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              Mike Ansberry @Dr GO last edited by

              @dr-go said in Tinnitus sufferers here ?:

              White nose generator at the bedside can help quit a lot.

              How does having a white nose help?

              Sorry, Gary, I just couldn't resist that.

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              • ROWUK
                ROWUK Veterans & Military Musicians Western Europe Group Monette Club last edited by

                Many times tinnitus is caused by a shift of our lower jaw due to pulling teeth. Proper implants or prosthetics can, in this case restore the jaw geometry and at least lessen the impact.

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                • Dr GO
                  Dr GO @Mike Ansberry last edited by

                  @mike-ansberry said in Tinnitus sufferers here ?:

                  @dr-go said in Tinnitus sufferers here ?:

                  White nose generator at the bedside can help quit a lot.

                  How does having a white nose help?

                  Sorry, Gary, I just couldn't resist that.

                  When you see it better with an i.

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                  • bobmiller1969
                    bobmiller1969 @tptguy last edited by

                    @tptguy I had a minor stroke 2 years ago, and have had constant ringing in my ears ever since. Some days it's louder than others, but definitely constant.
                    I've tried a couple of different apps on my phone, which are essentially white noise generators, and they have helped to some degree as far as getting a good night's sleep. Cricket sounds are the best that I've found to mask it, but I've been more annoyed that the apps seem to use a short loop, which has a noticeable start and end point, that makes it less effective. I have pretty much given up on getting rid of it, and am learning to live with it. Strangely enough, one of the only things that completely distracts me from hearing it is playing my horns. It shifts my focus.
                    For a while, I was certain it would drive me mad, but I was at least halfway there already.
                    I got my medical card last summer, and that also seems to help (was mainly for my arthritis), but I usually only use that in the evening.
                    At least it hasn't gotten any worse. It doesn't seem to effect my overall hearing, except for the times it's louder than usual. It's usually worst when I first get up in the morning.

                    For anyone else suffering from tinnitus, I feel your struggle, but I'd rather have the ringing than not being able to hear at all. Overall, I consider myself lucky.

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                    • Rapier232
                      Rapier232 last edited by

                      I’ve had tinnitus for 30 years now. Mine was caused by gunfire. It’s constant. I mask it by always having music playing, or tv on. As soon as I wake, radio goes on and stays on all day, my wife hates it but understands why. If she really wants peace and quiet, I use headphones. Fortunately it doesn’t affect sleeping or daily life.

                      Nearly as good as I need to be. Not nearly as good as I want to be).

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                      • Newell Post
                        Newell Post last edited by

                        Mine comes with partial deafness on the left side, due to being on a sailboat that was struct by lightning. I went deaf for about 5 minutes when that happened.

                        I have great difficulty talking on a traditional telephone using the left ear. However, I can hear fairly well using a cell phone on the left side. I think there is something about the difference between an analog signal (traditional phone) and a digital/compressed signal (cell phone). Many compression algorithms cut out some of the intermediate frequencies. I don't know if that makes a difference.

                        I use a white noise machine when I sleep that seems to help.

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                          Libertydoc last edited by

                          Lots of reasons for tinnitus. We used to have a CD at home that had a variety of frequencies one with tinnitus could listen to to find the right frequency of white noise. Like yours, mine seems to be getting louder.

                          As your doctor probably mentioned, there are some medical reasons associated with tinnitus that can be managed medically.

                          For sleep, I meditate myself to sleep. Sometimes I think the noise in my head will keep me awake but the meditation seems to work.

                          We haven't been practicing as a group here, either, but my hour or two a day on the horn generates enough internal vibration that I figure tinnitus is still getting stimulated. That and we have a macaw who can be even louder than I can.

                          Like you, I'd been wondering if tinnitus was common among brass players. I search the internet and didn't find anything specific.

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                          • Dr GO
                            Dr GO last edited by

                            Attached is an article that places Tinnitus in perspective as it relates to prevalence in musicians.

                            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6319581/#:~:text=Furthermore%2C the odds of having,odds of unilateral tinnitus OR %3D

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                            • Dr GO
                              Dr GO last edited by

                              Here is another article on prevalence of tinnitus in musicians, based on instruments they play. Wind instruments take the biggest hit.

                              https://www.tinnitusjournal.com/articles/occurrence-of-tinnitus-and-other-auditory-symptoms-among-musicians-playing-different-instruments.html

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