Recommendations for used silverplated professional trumpet
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Although I am very happy with my Getzen Renaissance professional trumpet.This is the first professional trumpet I have played or owed. I am looking to buy another used professional silverplated trumpet to compliment or contrast my existing one. Looking at modern day trumpets with 1st slide thumb hook and 3rd slide fixed ring. Gone the vintage horn route and done with that. Any suggestions or recommendations are appreciated. Want to buy it for under $850.00 excluding taxes, shipping.
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I'll just jump in here so you'll know you're not being ignored. I don't know of any professional trumpets in that price range.
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Your title says USED silver plated so you could try Trent Austin. Here is his link, click on STORE and chose Pre-owned trumpets. Big selection there:
www.austincustombrass.bizI bought most of my horns from them. Very trustworthy .
George
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Trent Austin is good.
I've had good luck with Osmun Music, also. If you don't see what you want, ask for it. They put out feelers for a Schilke for me and got a demo version in excellent shape but at a reduced cost. I don't know if they do that for everybody, but there's nothing to lose by trying.
Sometimes you can get good B-stock horns from WWBW.com.
Chuck Levin's Washington Music
Wichita Band Music Co.
Steve DillardRegarding used, professional horns under $850.00, you'll have to rely on other vintage heads than I. I've bought plenty of used professional horns but they've all hovered around $1,500 or more.
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Thanks all for your replies and recommendations. Currently I am looking at a used Getzen Canadian brass trumpet, Cannonball Lynx and Yamaha 6335 trumpet. Has anyone played any of these trumpets? Of the three which one would you recommend?
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I’ve played those 3 models - the Getzen is a pretty decent all around horn, the Lynx is a lighter weight lead horn, and the Yamaha depends on what era it’s from. I used a Lynx for several years for some New Orleans style brass band gigs, and it worked quite well in that setting. A friend had the Canadian Brass model and used it regularly in everything from brass quintet to big bands. The 6335 used to be one of Yamaha’s top level pro models, but now there many more to choose from with the 8335 and 9335 models that are just much better designed, and better players. Of course, condition is a big factor on any of them, especially the Yamaha. Yamahas that have been damaged never really feel the same again in my experience.
For modern horns in the budget category, you might want to take a look at the Jupiters. The XO series are excellent players, and the SQ intermediate models are more of a stripped down pro model than a dressed up student, and play very well. I actually keep one under my bench at work to practice on, and while it’s not as good as my Adams, I could easily gig on it if needed. I’ll include the link for the business I work for, but we currently don’t have any pro horns under $1200. New stock comes in all the time, though - if you ever have any questions about horns we have in stock I’m always happy to answer them!
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I have a 6335S that I use as my backup/outdoor horn. It is a solid horn. You can get one well under $1K. A lot depends on the characteristics you are looking for. Mine, with a PVA and metal valve guides makes it open enough that I am happy with it as a backup horn and as my horn for playing outdoors or when I want projection different from my Schilke X3L, which is my main horn. I have heard of pros using in in everything from classical to musicals to lead.
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CA. Thanks for the information. Seriously considering buying a Yamaha 6335 listed on ebay. But I have a current bid on another trumpet. Don't want to have the possibility of winning both bids. This is a want not a need.
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@flugelgirl. Thanks for the information. Buying another trumpet is a want not a need. After I bid on one trumpet, usually another trumpet comes along I want to buy too. Appreciate the heads up about the Jupiter SQ trumpets, will look at them. Loving my Jupiter 520m cornet. I am surprised how much I enjoy playing since buying a professional trumpet. The Wick Heavytop and Bach megatone mouthpieces work well on my trumpet and cornets.
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Jupiter has been mentioned quite a few times now, so I'll chip in with their "dark horse" from about ten years back... the STR-1010. It came in a lacquered and a silver plated version. The valves were superb, and it had a bonus: It was bell-tuned and came with two bells, a straight one and one bent Dizzie-style. The straight one is slightly larger and darker in sound. And what's more, the measurements are correct for Schilke beryllium bells, so when I still had mine (before it was stolen from me in a burglary in Ireland), I came across a beryllium bell and had that fitted to the Jupiter.
Another horn that you should not underestimate is the Stomvi Elite. They called it their "intermediate" horn, but it really is of superb professional quality. And what's more - they only produce plated horns. -
Big chance that I cause a shitstorm but I have my doubts about the quality of the XO-brass valves; I sold my Bach 180-37 from 1978 to a conservatory student who weared out his XO-brass horn in just 4 year of intensive use.
The first thing he did when trying the Vincent Bach horn was checking the valves of it. He was shocked...The rest is history
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My "dark horse" is a brand, Courtois. They went out of the trumpet business in 2015 or so and they are not very popular now.. because of that the prices are ridiculously low. The horns are just as awesome, top trumpeter Sergei Nakariakov is still playing on them last I heard.. no endorsement benefits possible there, the company isn't even making trumpets anymore.
I have an Evolution IV (heavy, braced) I got for $850 and also a couple Privilege horns (lightweight, step-bore) - I think I paid $650 for one and $850 for the other. If you can't find one I will sell my Privilege in silver which was a demo horn, it is nearly new. I shouldn't have bought it since I already had one but it was so cheap I could not resist. On top of these there is the Delmotte model ("Grand Siecle") which is a Bb/C conversion. I also bought one of them, too cheap to resist again and a superb player either in Bb or C. These three Courtois types are very different trumpets in terms of how they play, but they are all extraordinary designs.
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I totally concur. I have 1957 Courtois Balanced that blows all my other Bb horns to pieces (and that includes a Benge, a Besson Meha, a Buescher Aristocrat and an Olds Studio). I've got the feeling that horn knows beforehand what I am trying to do and just does it. I got the same feeling with a Gaudet (Courtois "student" brand, with Courtois-marked valve blocks) C, and even more so with a Courtois Roger Delmotte D I recently found. And, of course, my incomparable Courtois flugel...
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B&S is another to consider - quite well made, but don’t generally go for high prices in the American market.
As far as Jupiter XO valves, go, though - I have seen zero issues. We regularly get them new, show demo, and very used, and though I have seen plenty of plating wear primarily from those that have been in the hands of sweaty kids, I have yet to see valve problems from the heavily used. I see hundreds per year now in all conditions, so a pretty good cross section.Daily players: Adams A1, A4LT, F2 flugel , CN1 cornet.
Schagerl Raweni
Puje 3am(named for me), Benge pocket
Schilke P5-4, C5L
Yamaha 761 Eb/D
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I am stunned to see such low values on Courtois Evos and some others. Courtois was the oldest trumpet maker in existence before Buffet (Meinl) wiped them out and made the name a trombone stencil in order to clear the way for their B&S brand (that would never have been able to compete in the pro market otherwise in Europe). Be it defining the Victorian era cornet with their Arbuckle design, or some of the first top-notch C trumpets, the mid-century Leblanc horns like the Sonics, all the way to the Evolution series, Courtois consistently built top tier horns (and a full line most of the time all the way down to entry level - often for others to stencil). These prices are a fantastic bargain.
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@flugelgirl said in Recommendations for used silverplated professional trumpet:
B&S is another to consider - quite well made, but don’t generally go for high prices in the American market.
As far as Jupiter XO valves, go, though - I have seen zero issues. We regularly get them new, show demo, and very used, and though I have seen plenty of plating wear primarily from those that have been in the hands of sweaty kids, I have yet to see valve problems from the heavily used. I see hundreds per year now in all conditions, so a pretty good cross section.I have definitely seen Jupiter monel valves with major issues - porosity to be specific. I posted a detailed analysis of what was going on with photos back on TM - unfortunately gone now. I still have the horn from that and both the failed and the replacement set of pistons that were sent no questions asked (service rep sounded like it was a common issue). I have seen a couple of others over the intervening years as well - though Jupiter backed away from monel, so it has dropped off.
www.trumpet-history.com
A Timeline of Trumpets (Amazon)
2017 AustinWinds Stage466
1962 Mt.V Bach 43
1954 Holton 49
1927 Conn 22B NYS
1957 Holton 27 Stratodyne
1986 Yamaha YEP-621
1975 Yamaha YEP Custom
1965 Besson Baritone
1975 Olds Recording R-20 -
I found a used Conn 2B in the local classifieds. It's a nice, vintage horn, and I got it for $600 I think.
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@OldSchoolEuph All the Jupiter my shop gets have stainless pistons - have not seen a monel yet. Some have been heavily used loner horns, but have held up well.
