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    • I
      IrishTrumpeter last edited by

      Hello everyone

      Nice to meet you all ๐Ÿ™‚ - I am a new trumpet player and wanted to say hi and ask a question

      My music background is non-existant - but on the 12th March this year (just before the lockdown in my country) I ordered a plastic Trumpet from Thomann.de - half for me and half for the kids ---- now its just me and I love playing it most evenings and remakably (for me) i am slowly improving - I really have never been into music so it come as a surprise to me, while locked down, that I have done this and that I am now listening to far more music than before.

      But I am now at the stage where I want to get a metal trumpet and this is where my question comes from.

      My budget is not massive c.400 to c.500 eur, but what I am afraid of is buying the 'wrong' trumpet for me or one that's beyond my poor breath control!

      for example on the thoman site there is a copper/gold trumpet that they recommended would have a warmer sound - versus a gold brass which is sharper - the trouble is I really am not sure what that really means.....

      So instead of trying to understand what each type of trumpet does here is my question

      I have set myself the goal of playing this song by Christmas (fistfull of dollars theme playalong)

      Given my budget - what type of Trumpet/Finish & Mouth Piece should i be looking for and should i go new or 2nd hand?

      Thomann TR 800 L MKII Bb-Trumpet
      Startone PTR-20 Bb- Trumpet Blue
      pCompact pCompact Bb- trumpet red

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      • administrator
        administrator Global Moderator last edited by

        Reach out to our resident @ACB. He runs a shop in Kansas City and can help you.

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        • Dr GO
          Dr GO last edited by Dr GO

          Agree to first start with Trent as per the Administrator. I personally, went through ebay, got lucky and the one horn I purchased I got for a great price, in excellent condition, but it was a pain. Overall, it was worth it as I did get a great and my most favorite horn (of the 10 I own).

          Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
          Harrelson Summit 2017
          Kanstul 1526 2012
          Getzen Power Bore 1961
          Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
          Martin Committee 1946
          Olds Super Recording 1940
          Olds Recording (LA) 1953
          Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
          Olds Ambassador 1965

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          • Dr GO
            Dr GO last edited by

            Also, Flugelgirl on this site can also connect you with a good buy on a good starter horn, as she has familiarity with a variety of brands and as a technician, will know the quality of these horns literally, inside and out.

            Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
            Harrelson Summit 2017
            Kanstul 1526 2012
            Getzen Power Bore 1961
            Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
            Martin Committee 1946
            Olds Super Recording 1940
            Olds Recording (LA) 1953
            Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
            Olds Ambassador 1965

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            • Kehaulani
              Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

              The recommendations may depend on where you are. What country are you in?

              Benge 3X
              Martin Committee
              Getzen Capri Cornet
              Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

              "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
              Charlie Parker

              "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
              Chet Baker

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              • Dr GO
                Dr GO @Kehaulani last edited by

                @Kehaulani said in New Player has entered the Game:

                The recommendations may depend on where you are. What country are you in?

                So true. My response was under the assumption you were based in the US. Being outside of the US will likely change some of the options that would be more practical for you.

                Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                Harrelson Summit 2017
                Kanstul 1526 2012
                Getzen Power Bore 1961
                Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                Martin Committee 1946
                Olds Super Recording 1940
                Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                Olds Ambassador 1965

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                • administrator
                  administrator Global Moderator last edited by

                  Correct. If not in the USA, some of our international members may be of help. Here are some recommended stores:

                  Austin Custom Brass
                  Thompson Music
                  The Trumpet Trader
                  Horn Trader
                  Quinn The Eskimo
                  ... I'm drawing a blank, please add more

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                  • Kujo20
                    Kujo20 last edited by

                    Dillon Music in New Jersey...

                    Add that to the US list.

                    Kujo
                    1916 Holton Revelation Cornet
                    2016 Schlub Brass Works โ€œDamarโ€ 4V Flugelhorn
                    Martin 9 mouthpiece
                    Al Cass prototype flugel mouthpiece

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                    • Kehaulani
                      Kehaulani Credentialed Professional @administrator last edited by Kehaulani

                      @administrator said in New Player has entered the Game:
                      I'm drawing a blank, please add more.

                      Chuck Levin's Washington Music
                      Wichita Band Instrument

                      Benge 3X
                      Martin Committee
                      Getzen Capri Cornet
                      Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

                      "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
                      Charlie Parker

                      "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
                      Chet Baker

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                      • flugelgirl
                        flugelgirl Qualified Repair Techs Veterans & Military Musicians last edited by

                        We ship internationally daily, and have a very good selection right now. The majority of what we carry are pro models, But we do have some intermediate and student from Jupiter and Conn-Selmer right now. My favorite of the intermediates is the Jupiter 1100SQ - great playing horn that feels more like a pro than a student. More horns are arriving daily, so check our website or message our Facebook page for more info!
                        www.brassandwinds.com

                        Daily players: Adams A1, A4LT, F2 flugel , CN1 cornet.
                        Schagerl Raweni
                        Puje 3am(named for me), Benge pocket
                        Schilke P5-4, C5L
                        Yamaha 761 Eb/D
                        Lots of vintage toys

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                        • J. Jericho
                          J. Jericho Global Moderator last edited by

                          Welcome to TrumpetBoards!

                          Your goal of playing this piece is achievable if you keep it simple and play the high notes down an octave, staying in the same register as what is played through 0:42 in this video. Do not strain to try to achieve too much too soon. Playing high notes comes as an eventual result of playing the rest carefully and may take much longer than you expect to be able to do so. Lots of patience is required.

                          As for a suitable trumpet, Thomann seems to have a good reputation, and I expect that if you contact them, they can help guide you in your purchase. There are many members of TrumpetBoards who are happy to assist as well. Feel free to ask whatever questions you like.

                          '62 Olds Studio Trumpet
                          '67 Olds Special Trumpet
                          2013 Dillon Pocket Trumpet
                          '83 Yamaha YFH-731 Flugelhorn
                          1919 York Perfec-Tone Cornet
                          '50 Olds Studio Trombone
                          Shofar

                          "If it was just up to me, I'd only have trumpet players on my show." - Jackie Gleason

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                          • GeorgeB
                            GeorgeB last edited by

                            And to add to J.Jericho's advice, don't worry about your poor breath control. That will develop quickly the more you play. Use good posture and develop those stomach muscles.

                            1960s King Super 20 Silversonic, 1940 Olds Recording, 1942 Buescher True Tone 400 ,1999 Conn Vintage One Bb trumpet, A 1952 Selmer Paris, A 2020 Getzen 400 and a Manchester Brass ACB custom pro Bb trumpet, a 1962 Conn Victor 5A Cornet.

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                            • I
                              IrishTrumpeter last edited by IrishTrumpeter

                              Hi Everyone

                              Thanks a million for the words of encouragement and advice ๐Ÿ™‚

                              I live in Ireland - should have said - lots of food for thought

                              Thanks again.

                              C

                              Thomann TR 800 L MKII Bb-Trumpet
                              Startone PTR-20 Bb- Trumpet Blue
                              pCompact pCompact Bb- trumpet red

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                                A Former User @IrishTrumpeter last edited by A Former User

                                There are many choices for buying a trumpet in Europe. Are you considering buying rotary trumpets too? If you are buying without trying first, look at buying a well known quality brand. Such as Bach, Getzen, Jupiter and Yamaha or a European brand. Also consider buying an in store demo or blemished intermediate trumpet. Does your teacher have any recommendations?

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                                • Dirk020
                                  Dirk020 last edited by

                                  Buy a trumpet with a yellow brass bell, gold brass bells seems to sound nicer but they lack of projection

                                  Wherever you live, buy a second hand Getzen Capri and you will have an instrument for years if not for the rest of your life: Superb valves, sturdy construction, fat brassy sound with excellent projection

                                  Keep on studying, progression will come over milage...

                                  Getzen, Conn, Melody Maker and -too- many Warburton pieces

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                                  • Kehaulani
                                    Kehaulani Credentialed Professional @Dirk020 last edited by Kehaulani

                                    @Dirk020 said in New Player has entered the Game:
                                    Buy a trumpet with a yellow brass bell, gold brass bells seems to sound nicer but they lack of projection.

                                    I don't know why you would say this. I'm not sure of this advice.

                                    Wherever you live, buy a second hand Getzen Capri and you will have an instrument for years if not for the rest of your life: Superb valves, sturdy construction, fat brassy sound with excellent projection

                                    I have a friend who has played first in a community band, who has played his Capri for as long as I have known him (30+ years) and he has no reason to change horns. IMO, Capris are much better than their cost would imply.

                                    Benge 3X
                                    Martin Committee
                                    Getzen Capri Cornet
                                    Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

                                    "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
                                    Charlie Parker

                                    "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
                                    Chet Baker

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                                    • adc
                                      adc last edited by

                                      Welcome. Maybe consider a Cornet. They are easier to play and I believe more popular in Europe.

                                      More Cornets than I can name

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                                      • Kehaulani
                                        Kehaulani Credentialed Professional @adc last edited by

                                        @adc said in New Player has entered the Game:
                                        Welcome. Maybe consider a Cornet. They are easier to play and I believe more popular in Europe.

                                        I can only speak for Germany, first hand, but in 20 years there and in various ensembles, I have never seen a cornet.

                                        That I know in Germany is from first hand experience and by peripheral contact, I don't remember seeing them in any of the other Scandinavian and Middle European countries I worked in. The British Isles is the exception.

                                        Benge 3X
                                        Martin Committee
                                        Getzen Capri Cornet
                                        Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

                                        "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
                                        Charlie Parker

                                        "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
                                        Chet Baker

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                                          chelpres @Kehaulani last edited by

                                          @Kehaulani Just how wide spread cornets are on continental Europe are I don't know, but there is a clip of the Stavanger Brass Band on the net, playing Elgar's Nimrod, amongs't other things. They have a spread of brass instruments, cornets, trumpets and flugelhorn. Maybe indicative, then again maybe not.

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                                          • Kehaulani
                                            Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

                                            Isn't that a Scandinavian band based on the British Brass Band model? At any rate, they must be out there it's just in my experience, I've never seen one, so I would assume that's not typical.

                                            Benge 3X
                                            Martin Committee
                                            Getzen Capri Cornet
                                            Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

                                            "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
                                            Charlie Parker

                                            "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
                                            Chet Baker

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