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    • Dr GO
      Dr GO last edited by

      Niner posted in the Lounge several questions as to what members play professionally, and gig specifics such as nationally know professionals they have played with and if playing was for pay. That reminded me of how difficult it was for me when starting in the business to protect my bands on myself to assure payment to gigs. It took a bit of research to find out how to draft contracts for gigs and came up with my own template that I have successfully used over the years.

      I thought other members on this site may have examples as well that would help members that have consider the types of contracts that best fit their needs and situations.

      Looking forward to many examples and a lively discussion.

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      • Dr GO
        Dr GO last edited by

        Band Contract I have personally designed for my initial band, Second Coming, that has survived and been adapted by Eddie Brookshire for my current small group ensemble, The Eddie Brookshire Quintet: [0_1574634518191_EBQ General

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        Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
        Harrelson Summit 2017
        Kanstul 1526 2012
        Getzen Power Bore 1961
        Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
        Martin Committee 1946
        Olds Super Recording 1940
        Olds Recording (LA) 1953
        Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
        Olds Ambassador 1965

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        • Dr GO
          Dr GO last edited by Dr GO

          Contract used by our AFM Local:

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          Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
          Harrelson Summit 2017
          Kanstul 1526 2012
          Getzen Power Bore 1961
          Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
          Martin Committee 1946
          Olds Super Recording 1940
          Olds Recording (LA) 1953
          Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
          Olds Ambassador 1965

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          • barliman2001
            barliman2001 Global Moderator last edited by

            For other locations: In Germany, the Deutscher Tonkünstlerverband (Musicians' Union) provides contract forms; in Austria the Younion (which includes musicians) does the same.

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            • Kehaulani
              Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

              Or, you can be like me and work under the radar for decades. 😈

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              • Newell Post
                Newell Post last edited by Newell Post

                Bruce Springsteen tells a great story about their early days when they opened for Chuck Berry somewhere in New Jersey. Chuck traveled by himself in those days and used local pick-up bands for backing. Bruce had already signed to be the opening act that night and the promoter asked him if he knew a band that could back Chuck. Bruce said: "Heck, yeah. We can do it. We'll already be onstage and we know his tunes." Chuck got $11,000 in cash from the promoter before he went on. If the gear worked OK and the backing band was good enough, he gave back $1,000 to the promoter.

                Bruce didn't really know all of Chuck's tunes, but they went out and bought all of Chuck's albums and wood shedded them. When Chuck took the stage, he just launched into whatever song he thought was right without saying a word to Bruce's backing band. Bruce was going: "Mr. Berry! Mr. Berry! What key?" Chuck's response: "Shut and play for that money, white boy!"

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                • OldSchoolEuph
                  OldSchoolEuph @Dr GO last edited by

                  @Dr-GO
                  Wow, I'm impressed by the salesmanship that gets venues to sign this EBQ contract.

                  It does not designate length of performance (set lengths, number of sets, end time, or any other elements that would allow determining this). By signing, the buyer explicitly agrees that they receive the services to which they are entitled - obviously well in advance of actual delivery (if). The venue has no recourse for damages in the event illness prevents EBQ from performing - most I have known want the equal of the deposit they pay up front (in addition to that refund) as damages (of course, the odd format of Section 8 shows that while deposit used to be part of this, there is none - an unusual risk for the ensemble).

                  Says a lot about the excellent reputation of the group that it can book under these terms.

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                  • Dr GO
                    Dr GO @OldSchoolEuph last edited by Dr GO

                    @OldSchoolEuph said in Contract Repository:

                    @Dr-GO

                    It does not designate length of performance

                    It does state [items 6 and 7] the time (from to is implied) and has reflected this in our finalized contracts. Then the set time and number will be determined by the entry space in front of the 20 minute break statement. For example, item 6 will state from 7 pm to 10 pm; then item 7 will state 2 20 minute breaks (with the freedom of where and how the breaks will be spaced). So the band plays 140 minutes, the band breaks for 40 minutes. So length of time is defined in this way.

                    This is a valuable feature as there is improvisation as to when the venue organizers may want time to come to the mic to run a speech or their program material. This type of time line provides much flexibility.

                    As for recourse they have their lawyers and we have ours.

                    I am happy to say in the 13 years we have used this contract both sides have been content with the terms post performance and there has never been a need to litigate.

                    Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                    Harrelson Summit 2017
                    Kanstul 1526 2012
                    Getzen Power Bore 1961
                    Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                    Martin Committee 1946
                    Olds Super Recording 1940
                    Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                    Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                    Olds Ambassador 1965

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                    • Dr GO
                      Dr GO last edited by

                      What I find even more amazing is the AFM contract I use is very vague.

                      Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                      Harrelson Summit 2017
                      Kanstul 1526 2012
                      Getzen Power Bore 1961
                      Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                      Martin Committee 1946
                      Olds Super Recording 1940
                      Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                      Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                      Olds Ambassador 1965

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                      • Dr GO
                        Dr GO @OldSchoolEuph last edited by

                        @OldSchoolEuph said in Contract Repository:

                        Says a lot about the excellent reputation of the group that it can book under these terms.

                        Eddie is so well known, There is an Eddie Brookshire Day in Dayton Ohio!

                        https://www.pressreader.com/usa/dayton-daily-news/20190414/282707638449682

                        Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                        Harrelson Summit 2017
                        Kanstul 1526 2012
                        Getzen Power Bore 1961
                        Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                        Martin Committee 1946
                        Olds Super Recording 1940
                        Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                        Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                        Olds Ambassador 1965

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