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    • Patrick Watters
      Patrick Watters last edited by

      Re: Student trumpets
      Built on the same bell mandrels as the premium Recording models and featuring extremely reliable valve sections, the Ambassador line was intended to reflect Reynolds' professional commitment to providing high-quality, dependable horns at an affordable price.

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      • barliman2001
        barliman2001 Global Moderator @Patrick Watters last edited by

        @Patrick-Watters What has Reynolds to do with Olds?

        Courtois Balanced
        Courtois D
        Olds Recording
        Buescher Aristocrat
        Gaudet C
        Selmer G
        Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
        Besson International Bb cornet
        Courtois Bb cornet
        B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
        B&H Sovereign trombone
        Willy Garreis trombone
        Weltklang Euph

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        • J. Jericho
          J. Jericho Global Moderator @barliman2001 last edited by

          @barliman2001 See: https://olds-central.com/histories/

          and: https://contemporacorner.com/history/

          '62 Olds Studio Trumpet
          '67 Olds Special Trumpet
          2013 Dillon Pocket Trumpet
          '83 Yamaha YFH-731 Flugelhorn
          1919 York Perfec-Tone Cornet
          '50 Olds Studio Trombone
          Shofar

          "If it was just up to me, I'd only have trumpet players on my show." - Jackie Gleason

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          • Dale Proctor
            Dale Proctor last edited by

            An Ambassador isn’t a Recording. They share some basic parts, but Ambassadors are built to a price point and are well-built low tier instruments that play ok. I’ve owned 3 (two trumpets and one cornet) and that’s my assessment. They are not instruments that players would want to use in any professional-level genre of music, with the possible exception of jazz/ragtime.

            1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
            1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
            1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
            1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
            1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
            1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
            1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
            1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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            • barliman2001
              barliman2001 Global Moderator @Dale Proctor last edited by

              @Dale-Proctor Even more to the point, there are Ambassadors, Ambassadors and Ambassadors... during the long production run of the name, the style and fittings of the Ambassadors changed so often that first-run and late-model Ambassadors only share the name...

              Courtois Balanced
              Courtois D
              Olds Recording
              Buescher Aristocrat
              Gaudet C
              Selmer G
              Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
              Besson International Bb cornet
              Courtois Bb cornet
              B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
              B&H Sovereign trombone
              Willy Garreis trombone
              Weltklang Euph

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              • flugelgirl
                flugelgirl Qualified Repair Techs Veterans & Military Musicians last edited by

                At this point they are all old enough that you can’t judge one by another. Condition is everything when it comes to vintage horns, especially those designed with students in mind. The ‘Get an Ambassador” advice given to students on rental horns doesn’t always apply so well if the Ambassador they find has had a lot of use and/or abuse.

                Daily players: Adams A1, A4LT, F2 flugel , CN1 cornet.
                Schagerl Raweni
                Puje 3am(named for me), Benge pocket
                Schilke P5-4, C5L
                Yamaha 761 Eb/D
                Lots of vintage toys

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                • Dr GO
                  Dr GO @Dale Proctor last edited by

                  @Dale-Proctor said in Same high quality as Recording models:

                  An Ambassador isn’t a Recording. They share some basic parts, but Ambassadors are built to a price point and are well-built low tier instruments that play ok. I’ve owned 3 (two trumpets and one cornet) and that’s my assessment. They are not instruments that players would want to use in any professional-level genre of music, with the possible exception of jazz/ragtime.

                  Lee Morgan played this cut on an Ambassador. This is my favorite jazz song ever. I was mystified when I found out this was am Ambassador.

                  Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                  Harrelson Summit 2017
                  Kanstul 1526 2012
                  Getzen Power Bore 1961
                  Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                  Martin Committee 1946
                  Olds Super Recording 1940
                  Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                  Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                  Olds Ambassador 1965

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                  • Dale Proctor
                    Dale Proctor @Dr GO last edited by Dale Proctor

                    @Dr-GO said in Same high quality as Recording models:

                    @Dale-Proctor said in Same high quality as Recording models:

                    An Ambassador isn’t a Recording. They share some basic parts, but Ambassadors are built to a price point and are well-built low tier instruments that play ok. I’ve owned 3 (two trumpets and one cornet) and that’s my assessment. They are not instruments that players would want to use in any professional-level genre of music, with the possible exception of jazz/ragtime.

                    Lee Morgan played this cut on an Ambassador. This is my favorite jazz song ever. I was mystified when I found out this was am Ambassador.

                    Yep, like I said, you can find a few pros in the past playing jazz on an Ambassador and they work pretty well in that genre. I played lead in a big band for a while on an L.A. Ambassador, and it was ok, but it sure wasn’t suited for “legit” music.

                    I should note that the cornet I had was a ‘49, the trumpet I played in big band was a ‘52, and the other Ambassador trumpet was from the late 1960s. Other than the lacquer, they all were in very good condition.

                    1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
                    1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
                    1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
                    1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
                    1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
                    1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
                    1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
                    1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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                    • Dr GO
                      Dr GO @Dale Proctor last edited by

                      @Dale-Proctor said in Same high quality as Recording models:

                      Yep, like I said, you can find a few pros in the past playing jazz on an Ambassador and they work pretty well in that genre. I played lead in a big band for a while on an L.A. Ambassador, and it was ok, but it sure wasn’t suited for “legit” music.

                      Dale, I agree with you entirely. I have never played my Ambassador for "legit" music as it just cannot live up to the quality of sound you get from more seasoned horns. I just love that the Ambassador when high quality musicians play it can show off it's jazz sound potential.

                      Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                      Harrelson Summit 2017
                      Kanstul 1526 2012
                      Getzen Power Bore 1961
                      Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                      Martin Committee 1946
                      Olds Super Recording 1940
                      Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                      Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                      Olds Ambassador 1965

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                      • Dale Proctor
                        Dale Proctor @Dr GO last edited by

                        @Dr-GO said in Same high quality as Recording models:

                        @Dale-Proctor said in Same high quality as Recording models:

                        Yep, like I said, you can find a few pros in the past playing jazz on an Ambassador and they work pretty well in that genre. I played lead in a big band for a while on an L.A. Ambassador, and it was ok, but it sure wasn’t suited for “legit” music.

                        Dale, I agree with you entirely. I have never played my Ambassador for "legit" music as it just cannot live up to the quality of sound you get from more seasoned horns. I just love that the Ambassador when high quality musicians play it can show off it's jazz sound potential.

                        If I remember correctly, you have a really nice one! I eventually stripped all the spotty lacquer off my ‘52 model, had Amado water keys put on it, and removed the forward bell brace and lyre/finger ring holder. I played it most of the time with a Schilke 13A4a with a throat drilled to a 25.

                        1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
                        1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
                        1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
                        1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
                        1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
                        1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
                        1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
                        1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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                        • ron bodratti
                          ron bodratti last edited by

                          I love old Olds horns and have 2 L.A. Ambassadors , one of which has the fastest valves of any horn I own. I think it’s worth noting, and certainly a testament to the quality of the Olds product, that the valve section on Uan Raseys Olds horn was the one used in the Ambassador. Robb Stewarts website has a page dedicated to Uan - it’s worth a read. As I understood it, Olds was a “one tolerance” shop, which means all their instruments were made to the same tolerance specs regardless of price. That’s pretty incredible.

                          Sincerely,

                          Ron

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