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    • barliman2001
      barliman2001 Global Moderator last edited by

      Now normally, I am the guy advising others about mutes and stuff. But sometimes, fate throws things across your feet where you are stumped...

      I am to play 2nd trumpet in Wood Notes by Willam Grant Still; very interesting composer, very interesting piece.

      And several times, the composer calls for "soft hat mute"... now, how is that to be done? I'm not going to wave a trilby before the trumpet, that's for sure!

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      • Dale Proctor
        Dale Proctor last edited by

        I’d guess it means to play into a hat mute, but if you don’t have one, playing into the stand will do,

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        • Newell Post
          Newell Post @barliman2001 last edited by

          @barliman2001 You could try one of these.....

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          • J. Jericho
            J. Jericho Global Moderator last edited by

            My interpretation would be an actual derby/bowler instead of a derby mute; it seems to suit the piece reasonably well. It's stiff enough and round enough to suit its purpose as a mute.

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            • barliman2001
              barliman2001 Global Moderator @J. Jericho last edited by

              @j-jericho As I do have a derby mute, but no derby hat, I think I'll settle for the mute...

              Courtois Balanced
              Courtois D
              Olds Recording
              Buescher Aristocrat
              Gaudet C
              Selmer G
              Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
              Besson International Bb cornet
              Courtois Bb cornet
              B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
              B&H Sovereign trombone
              Willy Garreis trombone
              Weltklang Euph

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              • ROWUK
                ROWUK Veterans & Military Musicians Western Europe Group Monette Club @barliman2001 last edited by

                @barliman2001 said in Mute Clarification?:

                @j-jericho As I do have a derby mute, but no derby hat, I think I'll settle for the mute...

                Playing into a "soft" mute of any kind means that there is enough damping to kill overtones. A normal "hat" or derby mute is OK but putting some additional damping material performs the conversion. Kill the overtones on a trumpet, and it sounds more flute like.

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