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    • donna vreeland
      donna vreeland last edited by

      Ice castle's trumpet solo

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        Trumpetb last edited by Trumpetb

        I am assuming this to be a serious question about the effect of sub zero performance on the performer.

        There is plenty of work already relating to performing out doors in sub zero, check those out.

        Marching bands could be a good source of tips in the northern states. I am sure they have faced this question.

        I have done this many times and it is never pleasant.

        Below a certain temperature around the -5 area intonation and articulation falls apart. That is the single most worrying aspect.

        My personal approach is to dress with several layers and insulate the valve block in some way to limit heat loss into the instrument.

        Sticky woven bandage like elastoplast can be used on brass contact points with hands. It doesnt seem to affect the instrument intonation and is easily removed later.

        Plastic such as delrin mouthpieces can be used to keep the chops warm. I personally dont like the lifeless tone of delrin but the alternative is misery.

        Take your usual brass mouthpiece in case you cannot get along with delrin. I use brass and suffer.

        It wont be pleasant but you can get through it and still sound professional if you prepare.

        Take a towel to rest your equipment on if you have to lay it down.

        It is about surviving the gig and still sounding competent it is not about sounding your best.

        Best wishes and good luck.

        Trumpets
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        Besson New Creation Large Bore 1948
        Besson New Creation Medium Bore Modele Francaise 1948
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        • barliman2001
          barliman2001 Global Moderator last edited by

          Living in Austria means that I have some experience of playing outside in cold weather...
          several hints as to survive and produce something that is not horrible to hear...

          1. Dress warmly, in several layers, keeping care that you remain mobile

          2. Outermost layer should be water- and oil-proof.

          3. Double gloves are useful - finger gloves with no fingertips, then a nice mitten all over to keep warm during long intervals

          4. The Swiss "Brand" turbo mouthpieces are just as warm as Delrin, but produce a nicer sound.
            https://www.thomann.de/gb/cat_GK_blbmbt.html?shp=eyJjb3VudHJ5IjoiZ2IiLCJjdXJyZW5jeSI6NCwibGFuZ3VhZ2UiOjJ9&reload=1&manufacturer[]=Brand&gk=BLBMBT&cme=false&filter=true

          5. Zip-tie a hand-warmer to the valve block (not a coal-burning one - if they come undone, they will set fire to your gig-bag):

          Courtois Balanced
          Courtois D
          Olds Recording
          Buescher Aristocrat
          Gaudet C
          Selmer G
          Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
          Besson International Bb cornet
          Courtois Bb cornet
          B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
          B&H Sovereign trombone
          Willy Garreis trombone
          Weltklang Euph

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          • flugelgirl
            flugelgirl Qualified Repair Techs Veterans & Military Musicians last edited by

            It’s a movie, guys. They probably want to know either who played on it or where to find the music. I remember a song from it being pretty popular when I was a kid - I think it was “Through the Eyes of Love”, or something close to that.

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            • flugelgirl
              flugelgirl Qualified Repair Techs Veterans & Military Musicians last edited by

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Castles

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                Trumpetb last edited by Trumpetb

                And several ice hotels exist in several countries including Sweden and Canada in December.

                Holiday packages are sold for stays in these ice hotels and they have full hotel facilities including cocktail bars, and of course music

                Why would they not have small ensembles performing in the ice hotel.

                The thread was posted at the time of year when the ice hotels are open for business and very close to christmas day when it would be expected that live performers would perform carols in the ice hotels.

                I think the assumption that the OP was talking about how to appear in an ice hotel is a reasonable one given that we are here to help members perform.

                If a thread appears entitled Young man with a horn, should we reply Kirk Douglas.

                I think the members showed good grace in the answers posted and I am happy to have been part of that.

                As for the rest perhaps Donna the OP could confirm that the thread is indeed about a movie and we can all smile about it and be happy to have a light hearted thread posted for Christmas.

                If nothing else I am happy to have learned about the movie and the trumpet solo in it. Thank you Donna.

                Merry Christmas one and all and happy new year, and Donna please do post again we need active members to keep the site alive.

                Trumpets
                Besson New creation 1924
                Besson New Creation Large Bore 1948
                Besson New Creation Medium Bore Modele Francaise 1948
                Olds Ambassador LA model 1948
                Selmer Invicta with french rim
                Cornets
                Conn 80A 1953
                Conn 80A 1965
                Yamaha 2330

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                • SSmith1226
                  SSmith1226 last edited by

                  If this topic is about the Trumpet Solo on the Ice Castles Theme instrumental, as recorded by Marvin Hamlisch, it appears that the most likely artist was John Harner. I base this on the old thread from TH, “The Great Unknown trumpet player on old 1979 Ice Castles recording”. There were several possibilities suggested, but the last post in this thread gives second hand confirmation that John Harner played and recorded this. Below is the link to the TH discussion, a link to a short biography of John Harner, and a YouTube video of the instrumental recording. The Trumpet Solo begins around 2:35.

                  https://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768

                  https://www.unomaha.edu/college-of-communication-fine-arts-and-media/music/_files/docs/jazz-camp-harner-bio.pdf

                  Youtube Video

                  Steve Smith

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                  • flugelgirl
                    flugelgirl Qualified Repair Techs Veterans & Military Musicians @Trumpetb last edited by

                    @Trumpetb wow, you really escalated on that one! Just giving some info appropriate to the thread. Ice hotels are not a common thing in the US, but this movie was pretty popular when it came out. A lot of people in their 50s or older are going to remember it and the theme song, just like I did. I remember playing the song in my piano lessons as a kid. If you asked me about Young Man with a Horn, I remember the 40s dance arrangement that I’ve played a zillion times. If I ever saw the movie I’ve forgotten it. Not sure why you immediately jumped to the thought that I’m here to make fun of you all, just dropped some extremely relevant info!

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                    Schagerl Raweni
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                    Schilke P5-4, C5L
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                    Lots of vintage toys

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                      Trumpetb last edited by

                      @flugelgirl

                      escalated? are you serious.

                      that was intended as a clarification.

                      People escalate things where I am all the time.

                      There is a guy at the moment who is escalating on me, he is demanding money with menaces if I travel to the city to perform and goes into attack mode when he sees me.

                      My choices are to run away and never go the city again, or to be beaten up, or pay through the nose for the right to travel to gigs. Or end up in hospital.

                      And he increases the severity of the attacks whenever we meet. That is escalation.

                      Not a few words of clarification on a chat site.

                      I thought I was keeping it light hearted.

                      You may be reading too much into my words.

                      Trumpets
                      Besson New creation 1924
                      Besson New Creation Large Bore 1948
                      Besson New Creation Medium Bore Modele Francaise 1948
                      Olds Ambassador LA model 1948
                      Selmer Invicta with french rim
                      Cornets
                      Conn 80A 1953
                      Conn 80A 1965
                      Yamaha 2330

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                      • J. Jericho
                        J. Jericho Global Moderator @SSmith1226 last edited by J. Jericho

                        @SSmith1226 Thanks for mentioning John Harner; I had forgotten his association with Kenton '76.

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