@Kehaulani said in Claudio Roditi-RIP:
@Dr-GO said in Claudio Roditi-RIP:
They tell us in medical school, patients are not suppose to die from prostate cancer.
Bet me. My father died of prostate cancer.
I hope you read my ending comment to this line: To my professors that taught me this, reconsider. So would NOT bet against you. For sure.
Claudio, our conversations we had together. How many times they went beyond the trumpet? All those conversations, trumpet and otherwise are forever in my memory and framed into the perspective of your warmth and kindness.
Those many trips down to SoHo to jam and record with your colleagues are forever engraved in my mind. What fun we had, and Oh how we learned.
And when you shared for me to play that street trumpet you were so proud of and bought for only $25, then gave it to me to play, you accepted my comment, "Claudio, it sounds like a $25 trumpet." Then you gave me a mouthpiece to exchange for mine.... your magic (knowledge of the horn) turned that piece into a gem. Then you you wisked me from your Manhattan apartment and paid once again, cab fare as you lead me onto a mouthpiece safari for my Olds Recording. On that trip, you introduced me to Jarome Callete, who made a piece for me from scratch. Never had to use the microphone again when I played with my sextet on 53rd and Lexington for my Friday evening gigs. Again, you will be forever in my mind.
You are truly be missed, my friend from Rio!
They tell us in medical school, patients are not suppose to die from prostate cancer. I have lost my most important teacher of the trumpet to this disease. I have seen three of my patients die from this disease. They are not suppose to die from prostate cancer. To my professors that taught me this, reconsider.
I have learned from experience, not from my medical teachers, and from the many of our medical professional organizations not to screen. I screen my patients for this cancer.
AN AMAZING TRIBUTE to my one time trumpet teacher:
https://www.wbgo.org/post/claudio-roditi-brazilian-trumpet-virtuoso-warm-and-lyrical-style-has-died-73#stream/0
@Vulgano-Brother said in WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO BECOME AN EXPERT?:
I learned Zen practice from my shampoo.
"Lather, rinse, repeat."
So THAT explains a lot, Zen boy:
@tmd said in WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO BECOME AN EXPERT?:
Practicing is useful for acquiring and refining skills, but not for creating talent.
Mike
True, but getting out there in a performance environment, with nurturing band mates... that will help in the talent development department. I do believe that talent development is not only a mental set point but motivational. Do not underestimate the power of the brain. Synapses are ALWAYS being established and I truly believe talent can be developed through experiential activation.
@tmd said in WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO BECOME AN EXPERT?:
Of course, you need to practice to refine your talent. But I'm not a big fan of the 10,000 hour rule, because it assumes you can create talent, where talent does not exist.
Mike
Like Dr. Mike, you mean doing a CAGE screening on yet another ER patient for the 10,000th time hasn't made you an expert at diagnosing substance abuse disorder!?
@Kehaulani said in WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO BECOME AN EXPERT?:
Yeah. It's like walking in the desert and stubbing your toe on a little pyramid shaped stone pile. You decide to dig it up and, to your amazement, it widens. You do this the rest of your life, discovering that you have been uncovering the Pyramid of Cheops. That's what mastery work looks like.
So your are saying, that is what it takes to develop great Cheops!
@Kehaulani said in WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO BECOME AN EXPERT?:
Too many variables to make a blanket statement. Set your goal and do what you can do.
...AND then when you do achieve what you wanted to do... reset your goal
@Rapier232 said in WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO BECOME AN EXPERT?:
I’m sorry. I only speak English.
The Queens English I do believe... Pip Pip Where Lorry ridding in Britain can be a bumpy unpleasant experience, but riding Lorry, my prom date here in the USA, was quit pleasurable.
Finally if you can't play it right and can't play it with feeling, you should go into another field other than music and spare the torturing of music teachers...
or play the viola for the CIA during their spy interrogations
@grune said in WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO BECOME AN EXPERT?:
To practice until you cannot play something wrong gives you a base and makes you a technician; not a musician.
The two are not mutually exclusive, because when you play something until you can't get wrong and you do it with feeling then you are an accomplished musician.
However if you play with feeling but just can't get it right, you're a hack. fwiw
I fought like hell to work through my chemistry PhD these that applied quantum chemistry to electron transfer in biological systems. It wasn't until I began to apply my right brain strengths to actually visualize the p and d orbitals (rather than the equations describing them) to actually advance my research toward defending my thesis. It worked well as I was the first in my entering class to get the PhD.
Moral of the story: I believe whatever function an individual's brain is wired to best accomplish, one can use that strength to compensate for the deficits on the other side.
I am more of an accomplished musician than I am a physician. I believe this is because I am more right brain dominate. I just could not relate to many of my physician colleagues that were VERY left brain, and I would acknowledge to them that as a physician, I found it challenging for a right brain person to function in a left brain world.
@Rapier232 said in WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO BECOME AN EXPERT?:
...the good young trumpet players I know, tend to have ‘mathematical brains’. I wonder if that lends itself to natural talent/ability aspect of Trumpet playing?
That would tend to blow apart the left brain/right brain theory.
I hear in Joey Alexander's interview that he STARTED playing the piano at age 7. The he became a phenomenon at age 10! There is brain wiring in the equation as well and Joey has wiring that was created truly by God's perfection:
It all boils down to the saying: You practice not until you get it right, but until you cannot get it wrong. That is what it takes to become an expert.
