@georgeb said in This is strange.:
It's probably stupid of me to ask this, but is there a chance that somehow the valves may have got mixed up ?
George
We have a winner! George, you hit the nail on the head. I thought sure I checked and rechecked if the valves were in the correct cylinders.
Well, turns out 3 was in 1's and 1 was in 3's. Took about 20 seconds to fix it.
And now you all can feel free to begin making fun of me. I deserve it.
Back to dormant retirement for the TR300.
Not sure this is going to clarify anything, but let me repeat myself:
There is no blockage in the horn.
There is no blockage in the third tuning slide.
There is no blockage when the third valve is depressed.
There is only blockage of all air when the the third valve is NOT depressed.
My guess is, the third valve somehow got misaligned or is strangely in backwards. Clearly therein lies the problem.
I am going to bring it to Jonathan Ashcraft, my brass repair guy, who will surely know how to resolve it. He is a great repair guy, a regular artist, and he can play very well too.
One final comment: I am sure thankful I have a Gettzen Eterna to use every day. Every time I pick it up and rapidly press all the valves and they respond like a thoroughbred race horse, that is the feeling I get
@newell-post said in This is strange.:
BTW, if something blocks air when valves are not depressed, how do you know for sure it is the third valve? Does the horn block air with the third valve up and pass air OK with the third valve down? That would be really weird.
The third is definitely the one in question. At least that is what seems the most logical since that is that one that changes things when depressed. The other two were just fine.
@newell-post said in This is strange.:
It's easy to install Bach valves backwards. Not so with Getzen. That was one of the things I always liked about Getzen.
I know all about how great Getzen Valves are. That is my main horn.
Yes, never a problem.
@newell-post
Not thinking that is a path I will go with this problem.
If air won’t go through, neither will water so bad things might happen.
Great advice, everyone! Glad no one let too much logic get in the way.
That’s always such a buzzkill, anyway.
They will be filed in an appropriate place. Probably circular in shape.
Just kidding. Like some of you…….
@j-jericho said in This is strange.:
@bigdub said in This is strange.:
@shifty said in This is strange.:
@bigdub
Could the third valve be in backwards? Valve guide installed backwards making it look right?Might be something to check, too. Thanks
Most valves have a number or numbers stamped on the spring housing. Are they all facing the same way?
I think they are. I will definitely double check that, though.
@shifty said in This is strange.:
@bigdub
Could the third valve be in backwards? Valve guide installed backwards making it look right?
Might be something to check, too. Thanks
@barliman2001 said in This is strange.:
Instruments that have been lying around unplayed can get up to quirks of their own... A friend once presented me with a King Tempo cornet that just did not let any air through. Turned out someone in the previous history had stuffed chewing.gum into the tubing, just where the bell leaves #1 valve... another instrument proved to have a wasps' nest inside... and in another, the valve disintegrated into two parts when depressed; when not in use, it was ok... if you've got a proctologist for a friend, let him run his endoscope through the instrument in his leisure hours...
All good ideas, but this hasn’t been laid up for that long, really. Not even a year.
Let me remind everybody, when I press the third valve all the way, air goes through. Open,, the air cannot pass through.
@georgeb said in This is strange.:
It's probably stupid of me to ask this, but is there a chance that somehow the valves may have got mixed up ?
George
When I put it away last, it was functioning perfectly, but every possibility needs to be checked, therefore I will.
@kehaulani said in This is strange.:
Have you run a snake through the third valve slide to make sure there's no obstruction?
That is something I plan to do, yes. BUT- here is why I am not in a huge hurry to try that: when third valve is depressed, the air goes through just fine.
@dr-go said in This is strange.:
@bigdub said in This is strange.:
I have a Bach Tr300 that is in fine condition but is never used except for a back up in emergencies.
So recently I took it out to just give it a check and found that the third valve stops the air when not depressed. This has never happened to this trumpet or any other for that matter. Ever.
Yes, I did check the alignment twice, thrice, maybe fourteen times or so, in case you were thinking of asking.
Any idea what I might check to correct this? It is a decent back up horn, so I want to keep it functional.
Thanks.Sounds like you may have a back up for a lamp now.
Hurtful. Just hurtful.
I have a Bach Tr300 that is in fine condition but is never used except for a back up in emergencies.
So recently I took it out to just give it a check and found that the third valve stops the air when not depressed. This has never happened to this trumpet or any other for that matter. Ever.
Yes, I did check the alignment twice, thrice, maybe fourteen times or so, in case you were thinking of asking.
Any idea what I might check to correct this? It is a decent back up horn, so I want to keep it functional.
Thanks.
@j-jericho said in Recent painting:
@curlydoc You could add this to Artist on BOARD https://trumpetboards.com/topic/256/artist-on-board/439 as well.
I agree. Nice work!
@dr-go said in A little humour:
@bigdub said in A little humour:
@barliman2001 said in A little humour:
@j-jericho US, anyway. Could not be anywhere else.
Not even Switzerland?
Seems like they would qualify, somewhat.I believe their cars only work in neutral.... but if pushed downhill, should get some speed. That would not be too safe in hearing the car coming though since what's a Matterhorn can be an issue.
A little known secret is how they make their cheese have all the holes
@barliman2001 said in A little humour:
@j-jericho US, anyway. Could not be anywhere else.
Not even Switzerland?
Seems like they would qualify, somewhat.
