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    • Rapier232
      Rapier232 last edited by

      Anybody know of any good on line resources for learning music theory (very basic level)?

      Nearly as good as I need to be. Not nearly as good as I want to be).

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      • Kehaulani
        Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

        https://online.berklee.edu/courses/music-theory-101

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        • Dr GO
          Dr GO last edited by

          For the extra $247 I say: Go for the Credit! Who knows, with my BS, MS, PhD and MD, maybe with that extra credit, I can actually do something with my life!

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          • Rapier232
            Rapier232 @Kehaulani last edited by

            @kehaulani

            Thanks. Too expensive for me though.

            Nearly as good as I need to be. Not nearly as good as I want to be).

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              administrator Global Moderator @Rapier232 last edited by

              @rapier232

              Just try Wikipedia.

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              • tjcombo
                tjcombo @Rapier232 last edited by

                @rapier232 https://www.teoria.com/index.php
                Teoria has a nice collection of resources. It's really important that you do the "prac" as well as the theory. I found that playing around with a keyboard is a great way to internalize how music "works". Working your way through the chord changes of great jazz standards, working out good voice leading, gives you an insight into how and why chords connect (and don't).

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                • Rapier232
                  Rapier232 @tjcombo last edited by

                  @tjcombo

                  Thanks. Seems useful from a quick glance. Memberships end in June, so not sure what happens after then.

                  Nearly as good as I need to be. Not nearly as good as I want to be).

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                  • tjcombo
                    tjcombo @Rapier232 last edited by

                    @rapier232 I haven’t used the site extensively, only the bits I could access for free. I went there looking for the ear training and found lots of other useful bits. To be honest, practising comping on piano is teaching me all that my ageing mind can handle at the moment.
                    Not sure if you like listening to podcasts, but I find The 10 minute Jazz Lesson podcast has lots of nourishing bits of theory too. The main thing is to just get on with exploring what’s out there and find what suits you.
                    A great tip that I heard a few weeks back is to limit the number of resources you choose to learn from - I think the maxim here is “if you focus on nothing, you will probably achieve it “🙄

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                    • Rapier232
                      Rapier232 @tjcombo last edited by

                      @tjcombo

                      Yes. My problem was I started playing in a Brass Band. I gradually learned what key signatures were, but was never required to know the names of the scales. Just what notes to # or b. So all my playing is just from sheet music, with no theory knowledge whatsoever. I get by, but would like a bit more knowledge.

                      Nearly as good as I need to be. Not nearly as good as I want to be).

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                      • Kehaulani
                        Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by Kehaulani

                        Introducing Mr. Arban, Rapier,
                        (You can download copies for free. Just google.)

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                        • Dr GO
                          Dr GO @Rapier232 last edited by

                          @rapier232 said in On Line Theory:

                          @tjcombo

                          Yes. My problem was I started playing in a Brass Band. I gradually learned what key signatures were, but was never required to know the names of the scales. Just what notes to # or b. So all my playing is just from sheet music, with no theory knowledge whatsoever. I get by, but would like a bit more knowledge.

                          What I found help me a lot with this use of "theory" was to go over rudimentary books covering all keys and really learning all the phrases that are presented in sections depending on the phrasing concept being addressed (triplets, sixteenth runs, trills, double/triple tonguing). Once you get these phrases "under the finger" and they are committed to muscle memory, inserting new phrases becomes much easier. Perhaps giving that a try may be what you need.

                          Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                          Harrelson Summit 2017
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                          Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
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                          Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                          Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                          Olds Ambassador 1965

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                          • Dr GO
                            Dr GO @Kehaulani last edited by

                            @kehaulani said in On Line Theory:

                            Introducing Mr. Arban, Rapier,
                            (You can download copies for free. Just google.)

                            Yeah... this parallels the same concept I was portraying.

                            Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                            Harrelson Summit 2017
                            Kanstul 1526 2012
                            Getzen Power Bore 1961
                            Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                            Martin Committee 1946
                            Olds Super Recording 1940
                            Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                            Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                            Olds Ambassador 1965

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                            • Rapier232
                              Rapier232 @Kehaulani last edited by Rapier232

                              @kehaulani said in On Line Theory:

                              Introducing Mr. Arban, Rapier,
                              (You can download copies for free. Just google.)

                              I’ve owned an Arban for 35 years or more. Not the theory I’m looking for.

                              Nearly as good as I need to be. Not nearly as good as I want to be).

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                              • Kehaulani
                                Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

                                Rapier, do you think something like the Berklee School of Music theory course (forget the money-that's not part of the question) is what you're looking for?

                                Benge 3X
                                Martin Committee
                                Getzen Capri Cornet
                                Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

                                "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
                                Charlie Parker

                                "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
                                Chet Baker

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                                • tjcombo
                                  tjcombo @Rapier232 last edited by

                                  @rapier232 said in On Line Theory:

                                  @kehaulani said in On Line Theory:

                                  Introducing Mr. Arban, Rapier,
                                  (You can download copies for free. Just google.)

                                  I’ve owned an Arban for 35 years or more. Not the theory I’m looking for.
                                  100% agree. Context is everything. I started in a brass band too. Learning musical theory via this route was like learning social skills at an all-male school. Take exercise 45 which follows a cycle of fourths. This could be used to explain a whole lot a musical theory, but as a 12 year old it was “just” an exercise in grinding excruciatingly through all 12 keys. @Kehaulani if you were under the tutelage of a half decent private teacher, then you’d hope that a discussion on theory would accompany this exercise. Yes, at the time I noticed the way an exercise like 45 moved back to where it started, and enjoyed the harmonic patterns, but was never told, or thought to ask “why is it so?”. Maybe Arban was the problem rather than the solution (meaning that there are books that do present exercises in a theoretical context).

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                                  • Rapier232
                                    Rapier232 @Kehaulani last edited by

                                    @kehaulani

                                    Yes I think it is the sort of thing I seek.

                                    Nearly as good as I need to be. Not nearly as good as I want to be).

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                                    • S
                                      stumac last edited by

                                      Look online for Dulcie Holland, "Master your Theory" a series of books from basis to advanced, I see a couple of them for free on Scribed, there may be others. Regards, Stuart.

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                                      • Kehaulani
                                        Kehaulani Credentialed Professional @Rapier232 last edited by

                                        @rapier232 - I don't know how to send a private Message, so don't like posting my email address openly, but if you send me yours at garysapp@hotmail dot com, I might have an answer.

                                        If you use any other names than "rapier" please let me know so I don't accidentally dump it.

                                        Benge 3X
                                        Martin Committee
                                        Getzen Capri Cornet
                                        Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

                                        "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
                                        Charlie Parker

                                        "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
                                        Chet Baker

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