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    • adc
      adc @Newell Post last edited by

      @Newell-Post said in Opinions on Valve Oils?:

      I got the thickest formulation and it is REALLY think. (Thicker than Hetmans's #3 or Monster's thickest, IMO.) It works well, but the action is pretty slow. However, I also hear they reformulated shortly thereafter and the newer BERPs might be faster.

      Well the #3 is 5.6 cSts..that's thick. Youcan't expect fact action with thick oil.

      More Cornets than I can name

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      • Kehaulani
        Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

        Got my stash today. Valve oil, Valve slide and tuning slide oils.

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        • barliman2001
          barliman2001 Global Moderator last edited by

          Apart from regular products, it might be interesting to research into what people use in emergencies if they don't have the right product available... I once saw an oompah band player whose valves began sticking unscrew all the valves, pour about half a pint of beer into the valve casings, reassemble and continue...

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          • Kehaulani
            Kehaulani Credentialed Professional @barliman2001 last edited by

            @barliman2001 said in Opinions on Valve Oils?:

            Apart from regular products, it might be interesting to research into what people use in emergencies if they don't have the right product available... I once saw an oompah band player whose valves began sticking unscrew all the valves, pour about half a pint of beer into the valve casings, reassemble and continue...

            What? And waste that perfectly good beer? 🙂

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            • Seth of Lagos
              Seth of Lagos @Kehaulani last edited by

              @Kehaulani said in Opinions on Valve Oils?:

              @barliman2001 said in Opinions on Valve Oils?:

              Apart from regular products, it might be interesting to research into what people use in emergencies if they don't have the right product available... I once saw an oompah band player whose valves began sticking unscrew all the valves, pour about half a pint of beer into the valve casings, reassemble and continue...

              What? And waste that perfectly good beer? 🙂

              Spit's cheaper.

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              • Dr GO
                Dr GO last edited by

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                  Newell Post @Dr GO last edited by

                  @Dr-GO Oh. 4 valves. That explains it.

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                  • Dr GO
                    Dr GO @Newell Post last edited by

                    @Newell-Post said in Opinions on Valve Oils?:

                    @Dr-GO Oh. 4 valves. That explains it.

                    The more valves one has.... more oil one needs!

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                      • Dr GO
                        Dr GO @Kehaulani last edited by

                        @Kehaulani said in Opinions on Valve Oils?:

                        This isn't about valve oil.

                        The post clearly states "Opinions about valve oil " I believe we have been on topic here so am a bit confused regarding your concern.

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                            Dr GO @Kehaulani last edited by

                            @Kehaulani said in Opinions on Valve Oils?:

                            @Dr-GO said in Opinions on Valve Oils?:

                            @Kehaulani said in Opinions on Valve Oils?:

                            This isn't about valve oil.

                            The post clearly states "Opinions about valve oil " I believe we have been on topic here so am a bit confused regarding your concern.

                            Just that the point is being missed. The question is not about valve oil because there are no valves.

                            Really confused here as the posts I see are about valves.

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                              Kehaulani Credentialed Professional @Dr GO last edited by

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                              • Dr GO
                                Dr GO @Kehaulani last edited by

                                @Kehaulani said in Opinions on Valve Oils?:

                                @Dr-GO said in Opinions on Valve Oils?:
                                @Kehaulani said in Opinions on Valve Oils?:

                                Man, let's not quibble. The posts might be about valve oils because everyone missed the point. Whatever . .

                                Then PLEASE stop quibbling. No one else on this thread is quibbling. Can we put some oil on your quibble so we can move on with this thread? Thanks.

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                                • Kehaulani
                                  Kehaulani Credentialed Professional @Dr GO last edited by Kehaulani

                                  @Dr-GO said in Opinions on Valve Oils?:
                                  Then PLEASE stop quibbling. No one else on this thread is quibbling. Can we put some oil on your quibble so we can move on with this thread? Thanks.

                                  You are 100 correct. I got this thread mixed up with another and I'm truly sorry for the agrivation and time spent. I've been communicating with a friend most of the day who is giving up on living and my mind's just in the wrong place. Again, sorry.

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                                  • Dr GO
                                    Dr GO @Kehaulani last edited by

                                    @Kehaulani said in Opinions on Valve Oils?:

                                    @Dr-GO said in Opinions on Valve Oils?:
                                    Then PLEASE stop quibbling. No one else on this thread is quibbling. Can we put some oil on your quibble so we can move on with this thread? Thanks.

                                    You are 100 correct. I got this thread mixed up with another and I'm truly sorry for the agrivation and time spent. I've been communicating with a friend most of the day who is giving up on living and my mind's just in the wrong place. Again, sorry.

                                    Thanks Kehaulani. As I noted before, I was confused. We are among good company.

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                                    Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
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                                    • barliman2001
                                      barliman2001 Global Moderator @Kehaulani last edited by

                                      @Kehaulani said in Opinions on Valve Oils?:

                                      @Dr-GO said in Opinions on Valve Oils?:
                                      Then PLEASE stop quibbling. No one else on this thread is quibbling. Can we put some oil on your quibble so we can move on with this thread? Thanks.

                                      You are 100 correct. I got this thread mixed up with another and I'm truly sorry for the agrivation and time spent. I've been communicating with a friend most of the day who is giving up on living and my mind's just in the wrong place. Again, sorry.

                                      No need to be sorry if you are helping a friend in need. Thanks for caring, Kehaulani.

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                                      • Kehaulani
                                        Kehaulani Credentialed Professional @barliman2001 last edited by Kehaulani

                                        @barliman2001 said in Opinions on Valve Oils?:
                                        No need to be sorry if you are helping a friend in need. Thanks for caring, Kehaulani.

                                        Thanks Barliman. She was going to commit suicide but a few of us finally talked her out of it. It was a cry for help but she was serious. Long day.

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                                        • barliman2001
                                          barliman2001 Global Moderator @Kehaulani last edited by

                                          @Kehaulani Good for you. But now keep up the good work, or she'll fall back into it worse than before.

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                                          Gaudet C
                                          Selmer G
                                          Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
                                          Besson International Bb cornet
                                          Courtois Bb cornet
                                          B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
                                          B&H Sovereign trombone
                                          Willy Garreis trombone
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                                          • grune
                                            grune last edited by

                                            update: arrived... Tromba T3
                                            Received a bottle of La Tromba T3. Apart from an amber colour, and a slight 'fragrance' that reminds me of fruits, and a higher price tag... I cannot say this is any faster then the Cass Fast oil.

                                            So far, the fastest oil I have found is the good'ol Bach. It may be smelly and volatile, but it is quick.

                                            These no-smell oils must be refined from gas concentrate, which would account for their higher viscosity and lesser volatility. Oils like the Bach are refined from crude into kerosene and further refined into near colourless, which accounts for their odour, lower viscosity, higher volatility.

                                            Seems everything these days is a compromise: odourless means slower; faster means odour. Good to have choices?

                                            Bach Stradivarius Model 37 in silver [180S37], ca 1972.

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