The star license coming a year from now and getting one



  • Thanks to the making America afraid Homeland Security segment of the US government, with the active help of Congress, most people in the US will have to have a STAR indication on their drivers license showing they have been scrutinized before being allowed through the normal security line at airports in the US starting in October of 2020. Although if you have a passport or a few other excluding credentials you may be able to continue to fly on commercial airlines in the US without the star, most of us are going to have to have a star on our drivers license or ID or we won't be doing any flying.

    I got mine the other day. It's not like you can just go to the nearest license office in your locality. You have to go to the one location where the process can take place. You need a laundry list of documents..... birth certificate certified by the state, your SS card, your old drivers license, some officially produced papers like voter registration card, utility bill, etc., more than one. There is a laundry list of stuff you can look up online. I almost didn't have enough even after going over the list because my voter registration card didn't have my home address on it, but was saved by being able to produce my vehicle registration as one more piece of paper on the stack.

    Now the point of posting this is that if you haven't gotten your STAR yet you better consider doing it soon. I had to wait over two hours to get to the window. That's because only one office, which is also the where if you want to do anything to a license other than to renew it makes things crowded. In this particular office every case of anything not related to homeland security is also handled involving drivers licenses in my state. What's going to happen a year from now when large numbers of people who haven't gone through the gauntlet already and suddenly need to get their flying permit is not pretty to image.



  • Niner brings up a current public service announcement that you might want to pay attention to if you fly.
    Here's a snippet from Forbes 2019;
    Newfangled driver's licenses with stars are REAL ID compliant, meaning that they are more secure than what were previously issued. The new rules were announced back in 2005, when Congress passed the REAL ID Act on the recommendation of the 9/11 Commission. The law is intended to create a national standard and make sure every state has a more secure driver's license. What does this mean for travelers? Beginning October 1, 2020, travelers who present a driver's license that is not REAL ID compliant will not be permitted to fly. They'll have to bring another form of acceptable ID to the airport instead or be turned away.



  • And what is that "another form of acceptable ID"? Thanks.
    (I don't drive.)



  • Bunch of crap...



  • @Kehaulani Got a passport on you? Belong to the active military and have an ID? Work for the office of homeland security?

    In your case, the best option would be to get a state Non Driver license ID. Be sure to bring all your paperwork for the Star.



  • @Niner Thanks for this. My license has a star. Didn't notice it before your post.



  • @Niner said in The star license coming a year from now and getting one:

    @Kehaulani Got a passport on you? Belong to the active military and have an ID? Work for the office of homeland security?

    In your case, the best option would be to get a state Non Driver license ID. Be sure to bring all your paperwork for the Star.

    Thanks.



  • @J-Jericho You may or may not have done something to gain the special scrutiny and the star. It seems mysterious to me but I have a friend in Texas I was talking to about this recently and he has a star on his and doesn't remember actually applying for the special designation. He has no idea how that happened. He does have a passport and lives in Vietnam four or five months out of every year. Maybe that has something to do with it.


  • Qualified Repair Techs

    In WA you have the option to either get a regular or expanded license- the expanded license enables you to cross the border by land or sea, and requires the same type of security check as a passport. If your state has this option it may be a good time to get it. We didn’t have to choose a specific office to get it, I think all of them offer it in our area.



  • @Niner said in The star license coming a year from now and getting one:

    I have a friend in Texas I was talking to about this recently and he has a star on his and doesn't remember actually applying for the special designation. He has no idea how that happened.

    Texas doesn't bother with federal government regulation. 🙄



  • My Oregon DL just came up for renewal. Went in, gave them my old license, took an eye test as I am over whatever the age is, got my picture taken, and got my real id compliant license in the mail 10 days later.

    I didn't have to present any other information or paperwork.



  • @Pinstriper Oregon hasn't issued any "Real" ID cards yet. Starting in July 2020 they might. When October of 2020 comes around your card won't get you on a commercial plane I don't think unless you do what the people in other states will be required to do. Nobody needs one to fly until October of 2020. Check this page out. https://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/DMV/Pages/Real_ID.aspx



  • Sounds like the terrorists have won. ☹



  • Hi Kehaulani,
    I saw your question and went back to the Forbes site and did a little snippet for you;
    Other Forms of Identification
    Adult passengers 18 and over must show valid identification at the airport checkpoint in order to travel.
    Driver's licenses or other state photo identity cards issued by Department of Motor Vehicles (or equivalent)
    U.S. passport
    U.S. passport card
    DHS trusted traveler cards (Global Entry, NEXUS, SENTRI, FAST)
    U.S. Department of Defense ID, including IDs issued to dependents
    Permanent resident card
    Border crossing card
    State-issued Enhanced Driver’s License
    Federally recognized, tribal-issued photo ID
    HSPD-12 PIV card
    Foreign government-issued passport
    Canadian provincial driver's license or Indian and Northern Affairs Canada card
    Transportation worker identification credential
    U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Employment Authorization Card (I-766)
    U.S. Merchant Mariner Credential
    In coordination with its DHS counterparts, TSA has identified acceptable alternate identification for use in special circumstances at the checkpoint.



  • @Niner said in The star license coming a year from now and getting one:

    @Pinstriper Oregon hasn't issued any "Real" ID cards yet. Starting in July 2020 they might. When October of 2020 comes around your card won't get you on a commercial plane I don't think unless you do what the people in other states will be required to do. Nobody needs one to fly until October of 2020. Check this page out. https://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/DMV/Pages/Real_ID.aspx

    And yet I have one. Isn't that odd ?



  • @Pinstriper Either you have something that no one else is said to have in your state or you are off your meds. The Oregon license is compliant with air travel now but not after a year from now. Just saying.



  • @Dr-Mark The State Issued "enhanced" drivers license would probably be the Star license. The state issued license mentioned, not Star, would make the Star useless so that is confusing. However, the other exceptions seem right on....the Permanent Resident Card, etc.



  • @Niner said in The star license coming a year from now and getting one:

    The State Issued "enhanced" drivers license would probably be the Star license. The state issued license mentioned, not Star, would make the Star useless so that is confusing. However, the other exceptions seem right on....the Permanent Resident Card, etc.


    That would be Forbes that is confusing. I just cut and pasted the info. Here's some from ODOT.
    THE REAL ID CARD WILL BE AVAILABLE IN OREGON JULY 2020
    You will need a Real ID card or other federally approved form of ID to enter secure federal facilities or board a commercial flight in the U.S. on October 1, 2020. You will still need a valid passport to travel internationally



  • @Niner said in The star license coming a year from now and getting one:

    @Pinstriper Either you have something that no one else is said to have in your state or you are off your meds. The Oregon license is compliant with air travel now but not after a year from now. Just saying.

    Turns out I am off my meds.

    Oregon is currently issuing - and JUST STARTED issuing - an "enhanced" license that is still not real-id compliant.

    Cop friend of mine told me mine was one of the first he has seen. And his assumption was these were real-id's. But they aren't. So this is new, just in time for them to scrap the whole shebang.

    Oregon has resisted real-id for some time now - essentially since it was proposed. I won't get political in my speculation.


  • Global Moderator

    At any rate, gone are the days when anything went through... I remember flying from Ireland to London Heathrow using an expired German target shooting club membership card as ID...


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