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    • GeorgeB
      GeorgeB last edited by GeorgeB

      It's the 1960s King Super 20 Silversonic Symphony Bb Trumpet with a sterling silver and gold washed bell, silver lead pipe and gold trimmings, and is a dual bore from .464 to .468.

      This is the King model that Harry James played from the mid 50s up until his death.
      I can't wait to hold it in my hands,
      George

      1960s King Super 20 with Gold Wash bell.jpg 1960s King Super 20 Silversonic.jpg

      1960s King Super 20 Silversonic, 1940 Olds Recording, 1942 Buescher True Tone 400 ,1999 Conn Vintage One Bb trumpet, A 1952 Selmer Paris, A 2020 Getzen 400 and a Manchester Brass ACB custom pro Bb trumpet, a 1962 Conn Victor 5A Cornet.

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      • Kehaulani
        Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

        I've got a King coming back to today, too. Golden Flair. Just coming from Josh Landress.

        Benge 3X
        Martin Committee
        Getzen Capri Cornet
        Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

        "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
        Charlie Parker

        "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
        Chet Baker

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        • Dale Proctor
          Dale Proctor @GeorgeB last edited by

          @georgeb

          Man, that’s a beauty! I bet it plays like a dream, too - congratulations. 🎈

          1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
          1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
          1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
          1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
          1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
          1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
          1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
          1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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          • GeorgeB
            GeorgeB last edited by GeorgeB

            Thanks, Guys. I've been looking for a long time for one of these in top ( almost new condition ) like this one is.

            I believe it was around 1958 that the wife of Mr. White sat down with Harry James and presented him with the King Super 20 Silversonic Symphonic Bb Trumpet, made and designed just for him and him alone. Harry must have really loved it because he only played that particular model for the rest of his life.

            The story goes that it was the sterling silver bell that hooked him. I don't know how long the Super 20 with the sterling silver bell was exclusive to Harry James, but eventually it was available to anyone who could afford it and one fellow in particular, Ziggy Elman, when he plays it sounds exactly like Harry James. I once did a blind test for fun and couldn't tell who the hell was playing, Harry or Ziggy.

            For me, it was always a legendary trumpet. I'm not sure if it is still being made today, especially since the White family sold the company a few years ago, but for me the " Made by H.N.White " had to be on the bell.

            I don't know much about the King Golden Flair, Kehaulani, but let us know when you get it.

            George

            1960s King Super 20 Silversonic, 1940 Olds Recording, 1942 Buescher True Tone 400 ,1999 Conn Vintage One Bb trumpet, A 1952 Selmer Paris, A 2020 Getzen 400 and a Manchester Brass ACB custom pro Bb trumpet, a 1962 Conn Victor 5A Cornet.

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            • Kehaulani
              Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

              Mine arrived yesterday evening. When I initially got it, it looked and played well but knowing that there might be something unseen that needed correcting, I sent it to Josh.

              The only things that were done were to take out a couple of minor dings and giving it a cleaning. I got a really good deal

              Benge 3X
              Martin Committee
              Getzen Capri Cornet
              Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

              "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
              Charlie Parker

              "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
              Chet Baker

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              • administrator
                administrator Global Moderator last edited by

                I've always loved those horns. They are extremely stylish.

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                • C
                  Caburn last edited by

                  The short valve throw is at achieved at the expense of some constriction to the piston ports,

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                  • barliman2001
                    barliman2001 Global Moderator @Caburn last edited by

                    @caburn There are wonderful horns around that have a very short piston travel, are stylish in the extreme and beautiful players... the early Buescher Aristocrat 264s. Everyone knows about the Buescher 400s - but IMHO, they are slightly overrated in that they are just well-made conventional horns. The earlier 264s, however... art déco finish to the extreme, and extremely easy players with a very warm tone - you can get them into cornet territory quite easily, and they can sizzle up there just as easily.

                    Courtois Balanced
                    Courtois D
                    Olds Recording
                    Buescher Aristocrat
                    Gaudet C
                    Selmer G
                    Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
                    Besson International Bb cornet
                    Courtois Bb cornet
                    B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
                    B&H Sovereign trombone
                    Willy Garreis trombone
                    Weltklang Euph

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                    • GeorgeB
                      GeorgeB @barliman2001 last edited by

                      @barliman2001
                      I do like my Buescher 400, but as you say, nothing extraordinary, just a well made good player. I often wondered how those earlier Aristocrats performed.

                      George

                      1960s King Super 20 Silversonic, 1940 Olds Recording, 1942 Buescher True Tone 400 ,1999 Conn Vintage One Bb trumpet, A 1952 Selmer Paris, A 2020 Getzen 400 and a Manchester Brass ACB custom pro Bb trumpet, a 1962 Conn Victor 5A Cornet.

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                      • barliman2001
                        barliman2001 Global Moderator @GeorgeB last edited by

                        @georgeb The earlier ones are very, very special...

                        Courtois Balanced
                        Courtois D
                        Olds Recording
                        Buescher Aristocrat
                        Gaudet C
                        Selmer G
                        Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
                        Besson International Bb cornet
                        Courtois Bb cornet
                        B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
                        B&H Sovereign trombone
                        Willy Garreis trombone
                        Weltklang Euph

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