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    • SSmith1226
      SSmith1226 last edited by SSmith1226

      I don’t recall ever seeing any Klezmer music discussions on this site,TM, or TH. What I am posting is not religious music but but is cultural in nature. In the United states we have been influenced by Klezmer Music since the immigration from Eastern Europe since the 1880’s. In the mainstream, a great example is Ziggy Elman’s solo in his song “And the Angel’s Sing”. Another example is the Andrews Sisters adaptation of “Bei Mir Bistu Shein”. I will post videos of these selections below in order to see how they were influenced by the Klezmer style, as well as a couple of videos of the Klezmatics, one of best known contemporary Klezmer bands who also are influenced by many other kinds of music. These videos don’t represent across the board examples of all types of Klezmer Music, but will serve as an introduction.

      Steve Smith

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      • Kehaulani
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        • J. Jericho
          J. Jericho Global Moderator last edited by J. Jericho

          Although many of my relatives, friends and acquaintances love Klezmer and presume I do, too, I politely tell them that there are a few among us for whom it's just not our bowl of borscht.

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          • oldpete
            oldpete last edited by

            I enjoy some Klezmer at times. One of my former student's niece earned clarinet performance Masters with an emphasis in Klezmer clarinet.

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              A Former User @SSmith1226 last edited by A Former User

              Hi SSmith1226,
              That's a neat piece of music history and thank you for bringing it to our attention. I didn't realize that klezmer music went back so far in history or how it influenced so much of what we hear today. That caused me to do a little research and here's what I found. Here's a snippet from wiki;
              "Ancient documents has several descriptions of orchestras and Levites making music, but after the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE, many Rabbis discouraged musical instruments. However, the importance of merrymaking at weddings was not diminished, and musicians came forth to fill that niche, klezmorim. The first klezmer known by name was Yakobius ben Yakobius, a player of the aulos in Samaria in the 2nd century CE. The earliest written record of the klezmorim is in the 15th century.
              Many Jewish composers who had mainstream success, such as Leonard Bernstein and Aaron Copland, continued to be influenced by the klezmeric idioms heard during their youth (as Gustav Mahler had been). George Gershwin was familiar with klezmer music, and the opening clarinet glissando of Rhapsody in Blue suggests this influence, although the composer did not compose klezmer directly.
              At the same time, non-Jewish composers were also turning to klezmer for a prolific source of fascinating thematic material. Dmitri Shostakovich in particular admired klezmer music for embracing both the ecstasy and the despair of human life, and quoted several melodies in his chamber masterpieces, the Piano Quintet in G minor, op. 57 (1940), the Piano Trio No. 2 in E minor, op. 67 (1944), and the String Quartet No. 8 in C minor, op. 110 (1960)."

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              • GeorgeB
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                Wow, a very interesting thread here.

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                • SSmith1226
                  SSmith1226 last edited by

                  There is an interesting story about the last video in my initial post. It was originally composed as L'Estaca (Catalan pronunciation: [ləsˈtakə]; meaning "the stake", figurative sense "without liberty") is a song calling for Catalonia to be free from Spain, composed by the Catalanartist Lluís Llach in 1968. It was composed during the reign of the Dictator, Francisco Franco in Spain, and is a call for unity of action to achieve freedom. The song has become a symbol of the fight for freedom everywhere. The song was covered in Yiddish (under the title "Der Yokh") by the American klezmerband, The Klezmatics, in their 2016 album Apikorism. The Klezmatics version is above. The Catalonian Lyrics describe the struggle for Catalonian freedom using a metaphor of being tied to a stake.
                  The song is a conversation held in a doorway at dawn, where the main character asks Grandfather Siset "Don't you see the stake that we're all tied to? If we can't take it down, we'll never be able to walk." and the old man tells him that the only way to get free is by working together: "If we all pull, it will fall down. If I pull this way and you pull that way, it will surely fall, fall, fall, and we will be able to liberate ourselves."

                  The struggle for freedom is hard, it is never over, there is no rest. In recent years a Yiddish version of the song has become a regular part of the Klezmatics’ concert performances. The translation, by Yuri Vedenyapin, remains faithful to Llach’s Catalan original but gives the song a Yiddish flavor and resonance.

                  Llach says that when he original composed the song, he used the word 'column' instead of 'stake'. In the Klezmatic’s version, Der Yokh, the title refers to the wooden collar placed over a work animal’s neck attaching them to the cart they must pull. Also, in past history a yoke was often placed over the neck of a defeated person, often making them a slave.
                  Here is the Catalonian original.

                  Steve Smith

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                    A Former User @SSmith1226 last edited by A Former User

                    Hi SSmith1226,
                    Your post about Spain and Franco reminds me of where I grew up. I use to live in an area that had a strong Asturian community. The people were brought or came from that area of Spain to work in the zinc factory in Spelter. The thinking was that Asturians could handle the heat of the factory. On the weekend, the Asturians would gather on a hill called Pinnickinnick Hill and have a picnic. The odd name was due to the Asturians not being able to quite say in English "picnic". During the picnic they would collect money and send it to Spain. On a side note, the Asturians I grew up with were some of the most hearty, loyal and wonderful people I've ever met. They are a part of that thing I call "the place where I grew up".

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                    • Bob Pixley
                      Bob Pixley last edited by Bob Pixley

                      How about some crazy klezmer jazz? Anyone here ever heard of Raymond Scott?

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                      • Kehaulani
                        Kehaulani Credentialed Professional @Bob Pixley last edited by Kehaulani

                        Raymond Scott is the absolute bomb!

                        Not only was he a great composer, but an excellent music director. And he worked with a string of legendary players. Well worth looking into.

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                        • fels
                          fels last edited by

                          Our Brass Quintet played for Jewish service a couple of weeks ago. Several folks came up afterward and suggested we schedule another service followed by additional music after the service in the community room. We would love to do this but would like to include Klezmer. Any suggestions for brass quintet arrangements in klezmer style?

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                          • Kehaulani
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                            Did you google Brass Quintet , Klezmer Music ?

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                            • SSmith1226
                              SSmith1226 @fels last edited by SSmith1226

                              @fels said in Klezmer Music:

                              Our Brass Quintet played for Jewish service a couple of weeks ago. Several folks came up afterward and suggested we schedule another service followed by additional music after the service in the community room. We would love to do this but would like to include Klezmer. Any suggestions for brass quintet arrangements in klezmer style?

                              I agree with Kehaulani. Just “google” Klezmer For Brass quintet. This is an example of what you will find:
                              https://www.sheetmusicplus.com/ensembles/brass-quintet/klezmer/500005+700229

                              I haven’t researched where you can obtain the following outstanding arrangements, but here they are:

                              Steve Smith

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                                Jolter @SSmith1226 last edited by Jolter

                                @SSmith1226 said in Klezmer Music:

                                I haven’t researched where you can obtain the following outstanding arrangements, but here they are:

                                Mnozil Brass do sell a few of their arrangements in their web shop -- actually, they mostly sell their original songs. Too much hassle to get permission to sell arrangements of others' music, I image.
                                Unfortunately, they mostly seem to have older stuff and not this particular song. It is a Mnozil original but based on trad tunes (video says it's composed by one of the trombone players, Gerhard Füssl).

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                                • fels
                                  fels last edited by

                                  Thanks for the responses --- my inquiry was based on comments from other members of the quintet who claimed they were having difficulties finding arrangements. I should have remembered my anthropology professor's admonishment of 45 years ago -- do you your own research!

                                  Schilke x3
                                  Bach Strad 37
                                  Courtois Flugel

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                                  • Kehaulani
                                    Kehaulani Credentialed Professional @fels last edited by

                                    @fels said in Klezmer Music:

                                    Thanks for the responses --- my inquiry was based on comments from other members of the quintet who claimed they were having difficulties finding arrangements. I should have remembered my anthropology professor's admonishment of 45 years ago -- do you your own research!
                                    LOL, my father always had the same come-back when I asked him a question, "Look it up"!

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                                    • J
                                      joelf last edited by

                                      I enjoy it as I do most ethnic musics. (MOST music played at least in the USA is 'ethnic', as we're a nation of immigrants and descendants of an enslaved people, all of whom brought their cultures here and reshaped them into something unique).

                                      The 1st thing I noticed about Klezmer is the similarity to blues and early jazz forms in the pitch bends and even microtones that are mother's milk in the form. I'm no music historian---but could swear there's an African connection...

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