I just had to dig out my Conn 77A. Sorry no picture. It is a standard configuration for a cornet. The 76A, which replaced the 77A is quite a different design. The tuning slide, I'm guessing, is on the bell tubing? Anybody know of any other Conn cornet with that feature?
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RE: Vintage Horn Eye Candy
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RE: Why not another thread about bigger horns ?
@shifty said in Why not another thread about bigger horns ?:
@richard-iii said in Why not another thread about bigger horns ?:
Of course if there were a Cornet Boards, I wouldn't even be here.
Are you a facebook user?
Thanks. Already a member. Just a little light in the wilderness for cornet lovers.
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RE: Why not another thread about bigger horns ?
@kehaulani said in Why not another thread about bigger horns ?:
@richard-iii said in Why not another thread about bigger horns ?:
And one of the reasons there isn't more interest in this thread is that most people aren't interested in things other than trumpets on these sites.Funny thing to find on a trumpet forum.
Good point. So why even have a cornet and flugelhorn category?
Of course if there were a Cornet Boards, I wouldn't even be here.
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RE: Why not another thread about bigger horns ?
I just got a Blessing marching baritone. Much less expensive than the flugabone because it doesn't say flugeabone. Same configuration. Nice sound that can be baritone like or trombone like. Sort of like a flugelhorn with more smoke and depth.
And one of the reasons there isn't more interest in this thread is that most people aren't interested in things other than trumpets on these sites.
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RE: Cornet blog
@J-Jericho said in Cornet blog:
That's one of the few with people still involved.
Here's a link to the Facebook entity. Hope it works:
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RE: Cornet blog
I notice that one of the least used subcategories on any forum site is the cornet. We cornet lovers are apparently not as common in the brass world. I see more action in the cornet category on Facebook.
I am joining a new community band as I have just moved. I emailed the director about creating a cornet section within the trumpet section. My old band director had discussed this repeatedly with me in the past and was in favor of it. But the new guy never even answered my email. Too bad.
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RE: Cornet blog
I only see a 2011 date on that one. You see one later?
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RE: Fast Tempo and old farts
All those ideas work. But really what is the problem? Is it your fingers being stiff? Is it your brain being old and stiff? Is it your equipment not allowing the note to speak with minimal effort. Or is it something else? This will scare you. I was working on very technical and fast pieces this afternoon against a metronome. Worked through my mouthpiece collection until I found the one that allowed centered notes and fast articulations. I could then play the pieces at the correct speed. How about that? Equipment was the answer.
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RE: Crickets?
@Kehaulani said in Crickets?:
Hey Richard, I can't find a forum page on http://euphonium.com/index.html. Where do I look?
Perhaps he meant here: http://www.dwerden.com/forum/forum.php#.XhtsvshKhEY
Oops. Too many sites. That is it. Thanks. I have it bookmarked as just "euphonium."
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RE: Crickets?
Both here and TH has changed a bit. Here the contributions have stayed with the TM trend, frequently devolving into silliness. TH has had the influence of the very young crowd. Both means that I rarely find anything of interest. I spend a bit more time on Euphonium.com because that's what I'm working on now. But even there, how much do you want to read about this horn or that, this mouthpiece or that.
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RE: Not really a "mouthpiece safari" but the need for a "saving grace" type of mouthpiece...
And then there is a cheaper idea. Buy this book:
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RE: Trumpet Elbow!
There is a similar question on TH right now. You might want to read that one for a different take on the subject.
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RE: Mute Musings
@flugelgirl said in Mute Musings:
Corks ar meant to be sanded so they properly fit the bell. Since bell flares can be very different, sometimes when you get a new horn you need to replace your mute corks. Mutes that fit my last daily player well needed replacements to fit my current horn correctly.
Just what I was thinking. My latest trumpet acquisition has a larger flare and my usual harmon mute just fell out of the horn. Bought a new one and all is good. I also have a very small flared horn and that one took a lot of shaving of corks to get a good fit.
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RE: Clarkeโs Technical Studies Redux
Another really good source for exercises is the series at the end of St. Jacome Trumpet Method. Lots of runs and intervals working through the entire range. I find them great for pretty much everything.
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RE: Community Bands
I only have one group in my area as it is very limited in size and players. Most in the community band do not practice. I worked my way up from third trumpet to first. Then I started to switch off between trumpet and french horn due to needs of individual songs. For over a year now, I have been just playing horn in the band. Our section is much more professional and really we don't even need practices. Not so the trumpet section. So I'm happier in this section.
I have a friend who has played trumpet, tuba and baritone in the band depending on need at the time. I think he is happiest when playing tuba by himself in the band.
So don't overlook other instruments.
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RE: Reasons to collect trumpets?
In some cases it took many Ebay bargains to find really nice playing instruments. My favorite cornet and trumpet were made between 1937 and 1947. Can't exactly go to a local store and try those out. Each one was the second or third copy of that instrument I purchased, looking for a better example. And also so I have a backup in case the primary has an issue.
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RE: Tuning Tendencies
@Dr-Mark said in Tuning Tendencies:
@Richard-III said in Tuning Tendencies:
Totally agree with the behind the bell and the actual sound being different. I've recorded many a practice and performance and listened back. Some instruments have issues to work around and others are just about perfect, with no slide use. Listen to some old recordings before there were slides and recording technology to correct tuning and they managed to play in tune. So why not now?
That's a great question but I'm not knowledged enough in antique trumpets to answer. I know little to nothing about old horns. However, there are people on this site that can field this question. We have serious brass technicians and trumpet builders that can answer your question. Possibly trumpetsplus or flugelgirl can help.
I guess everyone doesn't know about the longer first and third slides in older trumpets? Players were expected to listen and play in tune. The low D and C# were much closer. The D in the staff tended to be a little flat. Each horn had its tendencies, You learned them and played in tune. My newest trumpet was made in the early sixties. My favorites were made in the late thirties and early forties. They are quite easy to play and easy to play in tune.
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RE: Tuning Tendencies
@Dr-Mark said in Tuning Tendencies:
@Richard-III said in Tuning Tendencies:
I think all that blending stuff is pretty silly as playing in a correct style for the section and group is more important that which instrument you are using.
Playing in a correct style? Style and intonation are two entirely separate creatures. If you can play all the notes (in tune) and not use slides, that great! But that's not the norm. The slides are there for a reason. Look how much less work it would be if the trumpet maker didn't need to make the 2nd and 3rd slides. Why make slides if they are not needed.
I would suggest that you take your two favorite old trumpets and record yourself playing Moon River. Next, send it to a couple of college professors you don't know and ask them if they'll listen to your intonation and lend some advice if necessary. What we hear when we play and what is actually coming out of the bell can be quite different. College professors will often lend a hand for something simple like this.Totally agree with the behind the bell and the actual sound being different. I've recorded many a practice and performance and listened back. Some instruments have issues to work around and others are just about perfect, with no slide use. Listen to some old recordings before there were slides and recording technology to correct tuning and they managed to play in tune. So why not now?
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RE: Tuning Tendencies
@Kehaulani said in Tuning Tendencies:
You use a slide on C# and D? If I understand correctly, it's not that the player can bend notes down to that, artificially, but that the Committee is made so that one doesn't need to use the third-valve slide to compensate.
Back (an aside) to using a Committee in concert band, what mouthpiece are you using?
I only play old instruments. There are no usable slides and no rings or hooks or whatever. They are made to play in tune with the player used to playing them that way. Also, I think all that blending stuff is pretty silly as playing in a correct style for the section and group is more important that which instrument you are using. It is back to using those wonderful things on the sides of your head.
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RE: Attracting members who are interested in things musical/trumpet
Here's the thing for me. TrumpetMaster discussions often devolved into silly humor. What started out as a serious discussion of technique or hardware would often become something I didn't care to read. That just seemed to be a characteristic of the site and the personalities involved. I can see that the site delivered to those people something they enjoyed. That carries over somewhat to TB.
TrumpetHerald rarely goes there. However, these days TH has also a very large contingent of younger players asking questions pertinent to their high school concerns.
The combination of both of the above situations means I spend very little time with either one due to a lack of relevance to my interests.