I really don't think of it very much. A low-end Yamaha in good shape should give a beginner all the horn s/he needs, although I played a bottom line Bach maybe 20 years ago. I really liked. If a person's already got a good working hand-me-down horn, I'd use it, but I sure wouldn't go out of my way to find a vintage horn that has more distinct tonal qualities.
I didn't get along with a Bach 7C because of it's rim. However, Schilke 11 is roughly the same size but with a more comfortable rim and I played that in H.S. and college. You might want to try that, just cost a couple of bucks, and f you get it from WWBW, I think they have a liberal return policy.
Schilke 11 used to be called the Model H, which stood for Herseth, Schilke's take on Bud's Bach 7C . . . FWIW.
I was first introduced to Ira on the tune "It Could Only Happen To Me" from his Horizons album. He plays somewhat rubato on trumpet then it goes into a soft straight ahead, medium tempo on tenor sax. A friend was sandbagging me and didn't tell me it was Ira an both trumpet and ax. He played both with equal mastery. Great player who always had a lot to say in his playing.
Let's keep in mind that old records had time parameters that modern recordings do not. In many cases, music was played quicker to fit in the finite requirements of the recording parameters of the time.
Sound. If I can't get the sound I want, I don't bother going any further.
Regarding mouthpieces, I match the horn to the mouthpiece not the reverse.
Next I seem to lump some elements in together. I do some checking of how in tune it is, and that includes playing intervals in tune with each other, how flexible it seems, tone from one register to another, and that there is some comfortable resistance, and that the valves work well and freely.
I believe Tilz are a popular and quality European mouthpiece, not only for modern trumpets but for historical horns and other trumpet-like horns. Till Bonner used to play one.
In that general genre, do you know:
Charles Tolliver
Ira Sullivan
Kenny Dorham
Dizzy Reece
Booker Little
What I meant, George, is that Bach's mind was so fluid and spontaneous that, writing or playing, (for small, intimate settings) nis creative process was the same. Just that one was immediately produced with a musical instrument and the other, paper then instrument. Same process.
If it were me, I would contact a Yamaha representative (not salesperson), explain the condition and how unusual it is, and ask for it to be replaced. You want a new lead pipe but maybe starting with your asking for them to replace it (do the work at their expense) might at least give you a higher negotiating position.
What on Earth is the “ Julliard (Miles Davis) approach “? Miles was learning bebop as it developed and on the 52nd Street. I could be wrong. bur I don't believe Juilliard even had any Jazz studies when Miles was there. I see no connection between approaches.
BTAIM, for me, there are two approaches. The first, and the way I learned, was to learn to play by ear and then, and only then when you are stuck and need a way out, do you find a solution by analysis. Jazz is an aural art.
Of course, learning a chord's extension notes is important but trumpet, being a solo-line instrument, you could play a solo knowing what the extensions are but play a milk-toast solo of mainly basic fundamental tones. And voicings get increasingly more sophisticated so you must know what the notes with the most impact are.
My second level deals with learning deals with learning voicings, theory, etc. simultaneous with the above. For more advanced voicings and constructions (it starts out easy), I recommend The Jazz Theory Book by Mark Levine. I still think it's best to be led by your ear but with the increased sophistication in voicings, a good dose of knowledge can't hurt you.
IMO, the current Queen of synthesizing all kinds of possible musocal styles is Marie Schneider. Some of her works are on YouTube but she has maintained a very astute control over her works and protection of them for free public access but check pit wjat you can.
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Sorry, I don't understand the question.
I meant “tell us about that horn.”
Thanks. Nothing much to tell, really. I found on eBay what seemed like a closet horn and sent it to Osmun Music to examine and repair anything they might discover, which they did. The horn is a sweety. Plays well.
I've already bought and had reconditioned and sold a previous Committee. Horn safari. Big mistake. I'm going to hold onto this one.
Man, how do they make that without its being labor-intensive?
If it's a military model, I would think they would have to keep the cost down.
Regarding phrasing and playing around the melody, learn the lyrics and play them. Tell the story.
Regarding patterns, I agree about the importance of melody and melodic improvisation but there's plenty of room for playing patterns (e.g. Woody Shaw), quotes (e.g. Dexter Gordon) and vertical playing (e.g. Coleman Hawkins). And traditional "classical" techniques are also put to good use, such as sequence (e.g. Paul Desmond).
@administrator said in Der Mond ist Aufgegangen:
I can hardly pronounce the title,
Then say, "The moon has risen".
I don't collect. I just have a couple of horns to be used in different musical context's.
Ex: Yamaha Z Shew because of its light weight. My daily horn.
Committee for jazz soloing.
Schilke B7 for all around work
Conn "New Wonder" Cornet for older jazz
Cool to see that ad. In 1955, I was just discovering trumpet. Then it all went downhill.
That's O.K. the supreme court will see to it that you are very familiar with that word.
If you're going to play it on only a one-pitched trumpet (C?) and the gig is in August, I'd enter the original in a notation program and easily transpose it the whole thing to C.
Once in the notation program, you can easily make the transpositions with just the pressing of a button. And, of course, you'll also get a professionally printed copy to read from.