@barliman2001 said in Brand-New 1971 Olds Ambassador Trumpet Possible?:
Tay Bridge
Just got around to reading about the Tay Railroad Bridge.
Wow, that was quite a disaster!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_Bridge_disaster
Staying on subject, my brand new Olds Ambassador trumpet is still a joy for me. But she finally has her own bed in my music room. She cried for the first few nights but is doing well, now. I had to open her water keys every few hours. Better than changing diapers. 
I know I'm coming into this post late but here goes, anyway.
I recently had a trumpet with detached braces and a missing pinky finger ring. What worked best for me was wrapping very wet rags around the tubes on each side of the soldering points.
I'm thinking about getting custom valve caps for either my Olds Cornet or Olds Trumpet. It will probably be my Cornet that I end up working with since my Trumpet is absolutely pristine, and I would like to keep it stock. The cornet has had prior use but looks fairly good for its age. Just want to make it look a bit better.
Does anyone know of a supplier of goodies that would work for the Olds trumpets or cornets? Thanks.
I hate it when people ask a question on a forum and then are never heard from again. Thanks very much for the information.
I bought that Olds "in name only" trumpet for $99 and played it for about 3 months. I had to solder two braces and replace a missing pinky finger ring but other than that, the horn was in beautiful condition. It was an okay player but wanted better. Recently sold it on Ebay for $163 plus shipping so got my money back and was reimbursed for my time with the repair work. The repairing was actually just as enjoyable as the playing. I learned a lot.
I was afraid someone would come along and be a kill joy.
But............you are probably right. Although, it's new bed will be in our room, in case it needs me sometime during the night.
Afterall, the poor thing is over 50 years old and has hardly ever been played.
Wish I could say the same for myself. Unfortunately, I have been "Played" all too many times in my life. I guess some people are just slow learners.
Sorry to regurgitate an old post but I may have found some info regarding my "Wallace House of Music, Chicago" cornet.
This cornet may have been made by company by the name of William Frank Company in Chicago. Apparently, they made some horns for Lyon and Healy. Both organizations are defunct and have been for a very, very long time. This information came to be via a gentleman from Horn-u-Copia.
I also have pictures of some of these old horns. Other than being in less than pristine condition, they are identical to the Wallace cornet in my possession.
Before I answer that question, let me write a little about the past few months. I haven't been on the boards since February 2022.
Back then, was inquiring about an Olds (by name only) trumpet that was available on Ebay. It was in really nice condition, so I bought it, cheap. It has worked well for me during my relearning period of getting back to playing the trumpet, but I really wanted to find an Olds Ambassador. This horn is now back on Ebay and will probably get me a hundred dollars or so. The current bid is $89 with 4 days to go.
I have a 1972 Olds Ambassador cornet that is in fairly nice condition and has been enjoyable to play during my trumpet relearning experience, but I really wanted to find an Olds Ambassador trumpet to be its mate. The problem has been trying to find one in reasonably good condition without a ridiculous price attached to it.
Finally, about a week and a half ago I found one to my liking. In fact, it's now in my possession. I am really excited about this, and the story is almost unbelievable.
This 1971 Ambassador trumpet was owned by a gentleman who is a native of Hawaii. He learned to play the trumpet when he was 7 years old and eventually played semi-pro.
During this period, when he was in high school, he was in a trumpet playing competition with 300 other players. He won first place and the prize was a brand-new Olds Ambassador trumpet, serial number, 754552.
Since he already had a good quality horn in service, he put this one away and during all of these years, he only removed it annually for greasing the slides and oiling the valves. It was never pressed into service.
Prior to shipping it to me, he had a music instrument repair house check it over. It only needed new water key pads and the felt valve pads. Everything else is original.
This horn now in my possession. My newly acquired prize Ambassador is absolutely mint, almost like it first stepped out of the Fulton factory. In fact, the case also looks brand new and even has both keys that originally came with it.
Like I said, most Olds Ambassador horns available now are well played and look like it. It's really nice to have a horn that is virtually brand new but was manufactured the old-fashioned way with quality parts and workmanship.
I was thinking of posting some pictures but not sure if the newness of this horn would really show up.
There is a serious problem that I am having right now that may cost me my 33-year marriage.
My wife is insisting that the Ambassador trumpet should no longer be allowed in our bed at night. She claims the cold brass is uncomfortable on here back when she accidently touches it. Is she being unreasonable?
Is anyone familiar with this horn's history and its good and bad points?
I'm looking at the possibility of picking up one at a very reasonable price.
I haven't been able to find much info on the internet with the exception of a few that are for sale.
Thanks very much.
David
@barliman2001 said in Trumpet Engraved "Wallace Music House". Need Info.:
€ 450
Unfortunately, $500+ USD isn't in my budget right now but if it was, you would definitely have my attention.
Besides, I am just now getting back to playing after a long hiatus and need to see how I progress.
At my age, it's really hard work but quite enjoyable at the same time.
@barliman2001 said in Trumpet Engraved "Wallace Music House". Need Info.:
@newell-post Buescher did make some oddly-wrapped cornets in the 1920s and 30s, sometimes under their student brand "Elkhart by Buescher"... like this one that I am currently selling through Votruba's shop in Vienna...
This one dates back to 1927.(The police teddy bear is due to the fact that Votruba's are the sole supplier of instruments to the Vienna Police Orchestras).
Very nice looking horn. Was it restored? Looks pristine. Selling just to thin out your collection?
@newell-post said in Trumpet Engraved "Wallace Music House". Need Info.:
@rowuk I was wondering if it might be a Buescher. It would make sense for a Chicago music store to get their "house brand" inventory from a maker nearby, like Buescher.
I haven't been able to find any photos of Buescher horns with those proportions and that wrap near the third valve. However, Olds did wraps somewhat like that on a few models. But the wrap gives it an elegant appearance: longer than most cornets and shorter than most trumpets, but nicely proportioned.
My Wallace definitely fits your description above.
It's shorter than a trumpet, and longer than my Olds cornet.
@rowuk said in Trumpet Engraved "Wallace Music House". Need Info.:
Wallace Music store is just that - a music store that had instruments made with their logo.
Here is a link to a Buescher trombone also with the engraving:
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-buescher-trombone-wallace-154935381Her a Horn-U-Copia link:
https://www.horn-u-copia.net/Reference/display.php?thisrec=842Here a link to Wallace Music House charged for copyright infringement with fake books:
https://books.google.de/books?id=JjEaqP4ZFI4C&pg=PA148&lpg=PA148&dq="Wallace+Music+House"+Chicago&source=bl&ots=xfGb3vY-Gl&sig=ACfU3U27bJJUyLW1MxFjW4Vk5RW85491hQ&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjm8s3m0rP1AhVNgf0HHUYOA4kQ6AF6BAgjEAM#v=onepage&q="Wallace Music House" Chicago&f=falseBugle link:
https://emuseum.nmmusd.org/objects/13513/fanfare-trumpet-g-f
Thanks very much for the information. My horn may even date back to the 30s.
I have been searching for this information quite regularly over the past year or so. You did very well.
Now let's just hope I don't get arrested for having it in my possession. :):)
@newell-post said in Trumpet Engraved "Wallace Music House". Need Info.:
It's certainly in good condition, whatever it is!
This horn is definitely in fantastic condition. It appears that it was never used or possibly, used very little. In fact, there isn't even any leakage in the valves.
I did have to polish the silver when I first got it due to some tarnishing but very little. Apparently, it was kept in a case most of its life.
The case, as you can see in my first posts is definitely not the original. It is much too large so possibly it's for a full-sized trumpet.
I am currently rebuilding the inside of it so that it will fit this Wallace horn. Hoping to finish it today and will post a pic when completed.
Thanks guys for your posts.
Enclosed are some additional pics from different angles that may help answer any questions you have.
David
I'm 80 years old and have been away from the trumpet for the past 20 years but started up again last month.
Recently acquired this horn. It may be a cornet because the lead pipe is smaller in diameter and only takes cornet mouth pieces.
It is in pristine condition and sounds like a trumpet. Horn is silver plated and only has one water valve. You can also see the slight Sheperd's Crook.
This horn is only 18" long but is only as tall as a trumpet. It does play well.
The mouth piece is engraved, "Conn Model". No number, just those words. However, I am currently using a Harry Glantz mouth piece which seems to be working the best for me.
Any info will be very much appreciated.
Thanks very much.
