Mid 20's Holton mouthpieces
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Wondering if anyone has real world info concerning the pre shank change over Holton trumpet mouthpieces available for Revelation model(1925-1928) trumpets.
Shape- specs numbers stampings...a few side to side photos of old and more modern.
Looking to find a playable piece to use on a new acquisition..Thank's to all
Guy
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@tptguy Sorry no Holton experience with trumpet mouthpieces, only cornet.
But you do have an opportunity to try many vintage mouthpieces made by Holton for not too much money. I've done that with other makers and found some really fine mouthpieces that make the old horns sing.
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@tptguy Received wisdom is that the Holton Heim 2 M.P would be suitable. I bought one for just that purpose, for use in my 1927 New Revelation. My friend has a similar period Llewellen and the Heim came as standard.
FWIT'sW, I have found the best fit is with a period VEGA M.P. However first find your VEGA!
I would imagine a skilled tech would be able to determine M.P receiver dimensions and machine down a contemporary M.P to match. I had this done, but used the VEGA as a template.
I would imagine some of the more enlightened Holton specialists in vintage land will be able to expand on all this. -
I do see some "old looking" vintage pieces on Ebay, with way different shapes of blanks, but I can't tell fron photos alone. I don't have a clue about number models stamped on them either. They could be cornet, tenor horn or other.
I did find 2 in my old mouthpiece box, that look to fit well with no wobble, a very old Rudy Muck and a 60's Giardinelli that I actually played on in college.
From what I've gathered,I understand the the Heims may also have either a modern shank or the more tapered version? Still a real original would be a cool find too!
The Rev. is still soaking, and will be testing the two I have here that fits this week end,
Thank you for the input.
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@chelpres said in Mid 20's Holton mouthpieces:
@tptguy Received wisdom is that the Holton Heim 2 M.P would be suitable. I bought one for just that purpose, for use in my 1927 New Revelation. My friend has a similar period Llewellen and the Heim came as standard.
FWIT'sW, I have found the best fit is with a period VEGA M.P. However first find your VEGA!
I would imagine a skilled tech would be able to determine M.P receiver dimensions and machine down a contemporary M.P to match. I had this done, but used the VEGA as a template.
I would imagine some of the more enlightened Holton specialists in vintage land will be able to expand on all this.You cannot mill down a modern shank to the old Holton taper. It was faster, so you would need to add metal as you move up, and if you try to cut in at that slope, you'll just cut off a lot of the shank.
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@tptguy ACB sell a "vintage trumpet" backbore that should fit your Holton.
https://www.austincustombrass.biz/austin-custom-brass-vintage-trumpet-backbore/
I believe that the thread is the same as Warburton -
WoW great, just what I was looking for thank you.
G.
