Adams new Balanced Trumpet at Taylor Music
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For the fans of the Olds Recording, Adams has just released a new balanced trumpet made exclusively for Taylor Music in Aberdeen, SD with offset valves! The horn is here: http://www.1800usaband.com/products/view/7875
and ACB did a video review here:
for your viewing and listening pleasure.Based on the Adams A3 model, this new 'Fulcrum' model was modified and now features Olds Recording features:
- The 2nd valve is offset to the left, for a more ergonomic hand-position.
- The entire valve-section is moved forward, to better balance the horn and to provide the performer with many hours of stress-free playing.
- The spring-return 3rd valve trigger provides smooth, easy tuning for certain 3rd-valve combination fingerings.
I am geeked by this new horn and look forward to playing it at ITG (I hope it will be there)!
The balanced aspect is cool (as long as you don't crash your mouthpiece into your chops), but I am more excited to see the offset valves! I always enjoyed playing the Recording because of this feature ... and know with the outstanding quality at Adams that this horn will be well done in every way.
How lives in SD?
The first response will be from Dr GO, I imagine = king of the Recordings!
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@Shepherds_Crook said in Adams new Balanced Trumpet at Taylor Music:
For the fans of the Olds Recording, Adams has just released a new balanced trumpet made exclusively for Taylor Music in Aberdeen, SD with offset valves! The horn is here: http://www.1800usaband.com/products/view/7875
The first response will be from Dr GO, I imagine = king of the Recordings!
OR one could just purchase a vintage Recording!
Blaine, you do know vintage, yes? I know you do. I purchased one from you. A REAL beauty.
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Does Trent not sound good on anything?
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@Kehaulani never heard him play a garden hose without a mouthpiece ... no one sounds good on that! Otherwise ... no.
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I am very impressed by this new Adams Recording. Kudos to Miel Adams and his crew
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Stan Kolb, President of Taylor Music, told me that Adams & Trent Austin are planning on having this new axe at ITG!
FYI, Taylor does offer a 30-day money-back-guarentee, so that is a nice trial period if you want to order one now!
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Loved my old Recording. Unfortunately it didn't take modern harmon mutes well, for some reason they kept falling out. Sold it to a player who doesn't need it in a big band...
I take it this model has a pretty mainstream bell design? Might be better for my use, then...Yamaha YTR-8335G
Bach CL239
Carol Brass flugelhorn
YTR-6810 piccolo
YAH-203S alto horn
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Why couldn't you sand and mold the mute's cork to fit the bell?
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@Kehaulani Then it would no longer be the perfect fit it was for my Yamaha and other trumpets...
Yeah I know, I could own two harmon mutes. But the discovery coincided with a friend really needing a new trumpet, and after playing my Olds, it was clear it was meant for him.
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Bach CL239
Carol Brass flugelhorn
YTR-6810 piccolo
YAH-203S alto horn
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@Jolter said in Adams new Balanced Trumpet at Taylor Music:
@Kehaulani Then it would no longer be the perfect fit it was for my Yamaha and other trumpets...
Yeah I know, I could own two harmon mutes. But the discovery coincided with a friend really needing a new trumpet, and after playing my Olds, it was clear it was meant for him.
But doesn't playing two harmon mutes lead to harmony
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@Shepherds_Crook said in Adams new Balanced Trumpet at Taylor Music:
Last year, I had the fortune to play an Adams trumpet: but I cannot recall the model! Maybe an A3. Whichever the model, the horn was simply great; very much better than my Bach Strad in all respects. So if the same perfection is given to this balanced horn, it should sell very well. I'm surprised not more 'pros" play Adams.
Also, I played the Carol Brass balanced horn. This, too, is a great horn. Its tone is difficult to describe: more open than my Strad. Easier to play, too. The balance definitely makes the horn easier to hold for long periods.
If I needed a different horn, I would definitely buy one of the two.
Bach Stradivarius Model 37 in silver [180S37], ca 1972.
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@grune I owned a CB Balanced. Loved the tone and how it felt in my hands, but the blow was a tad tighter than I prefer, especially as I played in higher range. Bottom line = I then sold it.
I have a custom Adams A4 LT that was made for me with a red brass bell and 5.5" flair. It isn't as heavy as the standard A4 ... but is not balanced. I will play the A3 Fulcrum and others at ITG and decide which axe will escort me home.
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@Shepherds_Crook said in Adams new Balanced Trumpet at Taylor Music:
I have a custom Adams A4 LT that was made for me with a red brass bell and 5.5" flair. It isn't as heavy as the standard A4 ... but is not balanced. I will play the A3 Fulcrum and others at ITG and decide which axe will escort me home.
Blaine, how is the resistance on that A4? I played one on a gig that an audience member wanted me to try and had to change back to my Committee after the first set as I was beginning to fatigue after playing for the first hour.
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Was it an A4 or an A4LT that you played? ML or L? The two models are remarkably different in their response, and bore size plays a pretty big part in that as well.
As far as the Fulcrum goes, it plays a lot like the Super Recording. If you want a Super Recording, but don’t want to pay a lot for what could end up a project horn, the Fulcrum is the way to go. It’s actually so similar that I have the same intonation issue with both models, so neither is a good fit for me, but it should work for anyone who likes a Super Recording.Daily players: Adams A1, A4LT, F2 flugel , CN1 cornet.
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@flugelgirl said in Adams new Balanced Trumpet at Taylor Music:
As far as the Fulcrum goes, it plays a lot like the Super Recording. If you want a Super Recording, but don’t want to pay a lot for what could end up a project horn, the Fulcrum is the way to go. It’s actually so similar that I have the same intonation issue with both models, so neither is a good fit for me, but it should work for anyone who likes a Super Recording.
Interesting. I use an Olds 7 mouthpiece on my Super Recording and have not had any intonation issues. My take on the Super Recording is it plays a bit brighter than my other Olds horns. I find it interesting that the Recording was developed as the transition horn from the Super Recording, yet the Recording plays so much different than the Super Recording.
The one attribute I particularly like about my Super Recording is it plays with more accuracy than with most other horns I have played.
Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
Harrelson Summit 2017
Kanstul 1526 2012
Getzen Power Bore 1961
Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
Martin Committee 1946
Olds Super Recording 1940
Olds Recording (LA) 1953
Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
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@Dr-GO Super Recordings are one of a handful of horns that won’t play up to A440 for me, normally about 5-10 cents flat with the tuning slide all the way in. Once in a while I’ll find one that’s closer to pitch, but I just don’t like the way they play for the most part, so I’m not too upset about that. I own a Recording that I need to get rid of - I only bought it to flip, anyway. Someone will like it, but it’s not fun for me. It has nothing to do with my mouthpiece, and I’m not one to collect a bunch of vintage mouthpieces to play with vintage horns. My ACB MV3C* works with nearly everything new or vintage anyway, and what my modern mouthpieces don’t work on I’m not usually interested in playing. I keep a couple of Bach and Olds mouthpieces in my test kit I keep at my bench, but I don’t remember the last time I needed to use them to test with.
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Hi Gary, Sorry for delay ... I haven’t been here for a while.
My custom A4 LT-S is a ML bore. I think it plays more open than most ML horns, but I don’t get wasted on it like I did on my first A4 which was L .470 bore. I’m still fresh on it now after 3 hour gigs, and just love the way it plays.
Bottom line, you need to play it. Hopefully we can hang soon.
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@Shepherds_Crook said in Adams new Balanced Trumpet at Taylor Music:
Hi Gary, Sorry for delay ... I haven’t been here for a while.
My custom A4 LT-S is a ML bore. I think it plays more open than most ML horns, but I don’t get wasted on it like I did on my first A4 which was L .470 bore. I still fresh on it now after 3 hour gigs, and just love the way it plays.
Bottom line, you need to play it. Hopefully we can hang soon.
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@Dr-GO said in Adams new Balanced Trumpet at Taylor Music:
The one attribute I particularly like about my Super Recording is it plays with more accuracy than with most other horns I have played.
That is it in a nutshell. For me the SR is SO much more accurate. I don't have intonation problems (more than usual) on it with a ACB 3C.
